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Post by rulevheadtxindo on Sept 28, 2023 12:25:26 GMT -5
I spent so much money preordering almost everything 🤭 So did we all see the bundle on evanescencestore.com?
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Post by rulevheadtxindo on Sept 28, 2023 12:27:51 GMT -5
She likes to keep stuff old school which I like. I have a cassette player so I ordered the super deluxe with cassette version and also the CD version 🤗 Anyway, the blue vinyls Target edition are gorgeous 🦋 Of course I spent big money because I'm a collector and like shiny things... D'oh! I'm a little confused on why Amy digitized all of her stuff only to release a cassette... Maybe to charge 80 bucks for a cassette player, but it's annoying that the good stuff with the release is inaccessible and behind a hefty price tag. I can't complain about the lack of content anymore with the pricey bundled packages, but I still feel like the regular real fans who can't afford to shell out a few hundred dollars right now are getting the short end of the stick, and I do feel bad.
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Post by imnotbroken118 on Sept 28, 2023 12:47:04 GMT -5
She likes to keep stuff old school which I like. I have a cassette player so I ordered the super deluxe with cassette version and also the CD version 🤗 Anyway, the blue vinyls Target edition are gorgeous 🦋 Of course I spent big money because I'm a collector and like shiny things... D'oh! I'm a little confused on why Amy digitized all of her stuff only to release a cassette... Maybe to charge 80 bucks for a cassette player, but it's annoying that the good stuff with the release is inaccessible and behind a hefty price tag. I can't complain about the lack of content anymore with the pricey bundled packages, but I still feel like the regular real fans who can't afford to shell out a few hundred dollars right now are getting the short end of the stick, and I do feel bad. You sound like a collector, like me! I got whatever costly super deluxe, have it all edition and then got a CD copy. I am trying to avoid getting all of the vinyl because I'm already spending more than I'd like, but I might order the Pink and Black marble from my local record store to give them some love. I haven't seen the Walmart listing actually there yet but I love clear vinyl. I'm not too keen on the Target one but I might as well but then I'm only the standard black away from having them all and it's such a downward spiral lol. This band is such a weakness on my bank account. Edit: I'm also super excited so many want to be involved in the anniversary. Seeing both Target and Walmart jumping in for exclusives is cool, especially since music sales have become much more selective in terms of which artists big box stores will carry releases for. It's just awesome to see the impact Fallen really had in the world. 16 million copies. Dang. What a big dream vision come to life.
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Post by fishbowl on Sept 28, 2023 15:00:59 GMT -5
So I listened to a snippet of what was supposed to be BMTL remastered on twitter but later Evanescence released the BMTL demo making me believe the “remastered” I listened to was actually the 2002 demo so it got me confused… What I’m saying is that if the snippet I listened to was actually the remaster then I’m a little disappointed because I thought it would get somewhat the Synthesis treatment with the completely re-recorded vocals but instead the snippet has young Amy Lee’s voice. I wanted to hear Fallen with Amy’s current vocal capabilities. Who knows if there will be new vocals on the album I doubt it now but I could be wrong.
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Post by Thomas on Sept 28, 2023 16:52:00 GMT -5
Now we're talking after the box sets and physical releases were announced!! Of course I spent big money because I'm a collector and like shiny things... D'oh! I'm a little confused on why Amy digitized all of her stuff only to release a cassette... Maybe to charge 80 bucks for a cassette player, but it's annoying that the good stuff with the release is inaccessible and behind a hefty price tag. I can't complain about the lack of content anymore with the pricey bundled packages, but I still feel like the regular real fans who can't afford to shell out a few hundred dollars right now are getting the short end of the stick, and I do feel bad. Someone will digitize the tape and put it online like someone did with the TBT tapes.
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Post by gezurrak on Sept 29, 2023 6:39:58 GMT -5
Is there any chance to get any of those bundles to Europe? To be honest, I don't want to order from the US again, since I NEVER recieved that comic (the one with Imaginary and Swimming Home in it) but paid the full price... so I'm quite pissed about that. As a European, I also have to pay a huge amount of shipping costs and then having to be scared that it never arrives... well... nope. I have not seen the bundles in European Amazon... and I guess it won't be on any stores, right? Is here anybody else from Europe who knows more than I do?
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Post by rulevheadtxindo on Sept 29, 2023 8:22:33 GMT -5
You may want to email or contact craftrecordings on their socials craftrecordings.com/pages/faq and hopefully they will be able to provide you with some information. I think it's worth the shot! Is there any chance to get any of those bundles to Europe? To be honest, I don't want to order from the US again, since I NEVER recieved that comic (the one with Imaginary and Swimming Home in it) but paid the full price... so I'm quite pissed about that. As a European, I also have to pay a huge amount of shipping costs and then having to be scared that it never arrives... well... nope. I have not seen the bundles in European Amazon... and I guess it won't be on any stores, right? Is here anybody else from Europe who knows more than I do?
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Post by Evanmidia on Sept 29, 2023 11:30:39 GMT -5
Craft Recordings UK evanescence.craftrecordings.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR1eImjcFe1gz2lpjez6df3aRf4IO7lM8W6P3AE0C0uapNEJgrFSVRYzFe8Is there any chance to get any of those bundles to Europe? To be honest, I don't want to order from the US again, since I NEVER recieved that comic (the one with Imaginary and Swimming Home in it) but paid the full price... so I'm quite pissed about that. As a European, I also have to pay a huge amount of shipping costs and then having to be scared that it never arrives... well... nope. I have not seen the bundles in European Amazon... and I guess it won't be on any stores, right? Is here anybody else from Europe who knows more than I do?
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Post by harridan on Sept 29, 2023 14:06:04 GMT -5
I guess I have to take my words back. They delivered something and it looks quite tempting, minus the fact that I would have to pay a leg and an arm for shipping and customs fees. I think I will have to live without the boxset if they don't put it on any EU platforms. So far I have only ordered the Japanese deluxe CD because Japanese editions never disappoint.
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Post by DarkFlare89 on Sept 29, 2023 18:26:54 GMT -5
So, demo #2 is also being identified as Demo/Remastered on YouTube. Do you think this will be a Dolby atmos version of the album or an actual remaster? Some of the Dolby atmos albums on Apple Music aren’t mixed very well, and often cut backing vocals and certain instruments out. I guess it will be a remaster, but we need an official announcement. Which technically is a mistake on YouTube's part, but I guess it is close enough to v2. With the cut in the 1st chorus and some slight changes in how it sounds, I imagine this is BMTL v3 demo? Not too surprising considering we only have 1 of 3 Going Under demos (as talked about in the Making of Fallen). It's not as if the three Tourniquet demos or the four Haunted demos (to one degree or another) are wildly different. So when Amy plucked one of the BMTL demos to put on this CD, I'm guessing she thought this version was the closest completed one, even though in my opinion v2 with the complete first chorus is better. I keep trying to be kinda optimistically excited because I'm glad I have a good quality of the BMTL demo (even though they unnecessarily chopped the first chorus in half?) I can't imagine they went out of their way to modify the demo in any way (other than 'remastering' it, whatever that may mean), because what would be the point of doing so? Taking v2 and making it shorter is less likely then there just being a third demo that happened to have the first chorus short. I have to listen to them side by side to better determine what exactly are the differences between the two though, but that's what I think - this is just one of many versions of BMTL. Just like how Tourniquet v2 & v3 are incredibly similar, so are BMTL v2 & v3. In case anyone wants the complete tracklist with the bonus cassette tape: So we have 'remastered' Fallen (meh), along with the 'String Version' of MI (is this the Mystary version? Or is it ANOTHER My Immortal version from the Fallen era?), BMTL Demo v3, the Live AOL Session of BMTL (which at first I though we had already - but I was either thinking of Haunted AOL Session from the MI single or the 2 acoustics from the BMTL DVD which . . . I think are from LAUNCH(?) not AOL? You know, the one with Amy and the scarf I think?) Going Under Acoustic (same as GU Single? FM99 Acoustic or perhaps the Acoustic from the Spanish Radio (whose audio I still don't have) from the Spanish version of the GU Single?) and 2 good quality lives of BMTL and MI. THEN we have the demos (I guess minus MI? Since the Mystary version serves that purpose? Maybe that means it IS the so-called 'String Version' then). But the question is, only two of them say they are the 'final' demo (EF and Missing, respectively). So presumably for that we would have the demos we hear from the Making of Fallen - the Missing that sounds more like a demo of the Final Edit rather than the Demo we have and the EF that is still a demo but doesn't have the vocal parts during the bridge? The rest is a toss-up - do we think Whisper would be the O-Verona one? Probably not considering they don't have the rights to the R+J soundtrack, so is this the Post- O'Verona version we hear being worked on in the Making Of Fallen (with the really nice keyboard outro?). Which Imaginary will it be . . . v2? Same with Haunted? TOM? Going Under will probably be different, like in the Making of Fallen. Tourniquet might be either v2 or v3? Or a version without the R+J movie clips, more likely? Will we finally get another MLB demo? I guess BMTL is v3 (but why was that one on the CD AND on the cassette? What's the point of that?) I wonder when there will be clips we can listen to.
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Post by mrmellow on Sept 30, 2023 13:23:54 GMT -5
I think we're all secretly hoping that Ev will release some demos that we've never heard before, but it's important to remember we've always had access to all of that sort of stuff from Ev. I'd be really surprised if there were more Fallen demos that we hadn't already heard - there's basically 2 or 3 versions of practically every song already.
I'm with everybody else though - disappointing that there isn't more new/uneard stuff on the 20th anniversary. There could've easily been an extra CD of just acoustic versions of songs, a full CD of properly mastered demos - this feels like the bare minimum.
-EDIT- just saw all of the additional posts on this thread that didn't load for me earlier on for some reason. Glad there's additional stuff! The cassette sounds exciting!
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Post by PJ. on Sept 30, 2023 18:14:24 GMT -5
I will be honest with you all, I was super disappointed with it all at first...but I am happy to see all the physical releases. I ended up getting all of them since the vinyl are all unique and stunning. I still could have done without all the BMTLs and My Immortals but It's nice to see the unreleased photos and content coming with the releases. They haven't done something this cool since The Ultimate Collection.
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Post by mrmellow on Oct 1, 2023 5:32:45 GMT -5
Also, an additional note because I feel like lots of people don't know what remastering is - it doesn't mean that anything is re-recorded. Mastering is the process of altering the sound in the mix, through compression or equalisation, so that it will sound at its best no matter how it's being played back - through laptop speakers, through headphones, through fancy stereo systems, in the car - it's so there's a certain consistency to the sound no matter how you're listening to it. Remastering is just re-doing that process. It doesn't mean re-recording anything. In my experience of remastered albums, there won't be a lot of difference. Certainly not for newer releases, anyway. Back in the day, it was making albums stereo or 5.1 that weren't already, so you tended to notice it more with older releases. You'll maybe notice a slight change in clarity of the sound, maybe some instruments or backing vocals will sound slightly different, or louder/quieter, but that'll be about it.
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Post by imnotbroken118 on Oct 1, 2023 12:12:20 GMT -5
I keep trying to be kinda optimistically excited because I'm glad I have a good quality of the BMTL demo (even though they unnecessarily chopped the first chorus in half?) I can't imagine they went out of their way to modify the demo in any way (other than 'remastering' it, whatever that may mean), because what would be the point of doing so? Taking v2 and making it shorter is less likely then there just being a third demo that happened to have the first chorus short. I have to listen to them side by side to better determine what exactly are the differences between the two though, but that's what I think - this is just one of many versions of BMTL. Just like how Tourniquet v2 & v3 are incredibly similar, so are BMTL v2 & v3. I can't say you're wrong, but I also don't know if I'm sold that there was another demo. I could maybe see Amy making a decision to alter the track to set it apart from the demos that leaked 20 years ago. Everything else is essentially the same (I know, I know: Tourniquet, Everybody's Fool, etc. but then why wasn't this one leaked with the rest?) and the cut doesn't feel super natural like it was intended. I think the part that throws me off would be the stylistic choice of how she sang "dark". The original song structure would hold the song on the Em chord to finish the phrase, but the cut moves the song to the C chord. It would have made more sense to end "dark" on the tonic or 3rd instead of the 2nd before moving into another section of the song. The note choice to me says that the phrasing wasn't resolved after the two lines which leads me to believe it wasn't originally intended. But then again, it's just a demo, right? Idk, lol. I've definitely put too much time into thinking it through. And who knows? Maybe there was a weird recording or clipping issue that they decided to cut while they were polishing it up. I wonder if Amy will clarify exactly what we're hearing. Maybe once the focus on sales goes down as to not bring visibility that the demos have been accessible online for about as long as Fallen has existed lol.
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Post by JohnnyScott on Oct 1, 2023 13:15:02 GMT -5
I'll buy the box set but I still think it's a lackluster release.
This is the band's first release that I'm not excited about
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