Morgan
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Post by Morgan on Jan 20, 2013 14:53:26 GMT -5
It wasn't, I remember someone asked Amy about it back then, and she was like "No, it isn't, but don't worry you'll get to hear the song soon, it's gonan be on TV."
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Post by AlessEv on Jan 20, 2013 16:41:37 GMT -5
She submitted SH for Ponyo!? Omg that's amazing! I have seen the film and unfortunately I didn't like it much compared to the other Ghibli films, all the tsunami and water rising freaked me out a bit I guess, and it wasn't as special as some of the others, but it would have been so cool if they accepted it!
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Post by rionka on Feb 12, 2013 16:54:30 GMT -5
Okay, after this interview I think that Amy's "electronic phase" was really just a phase, same as the "folk phase" back then, and she seems happy with everything she did on Ev3, adding that she would never release something she's not fully satisfied with. She also claims here that with the Steve Lillywhite it "wasn't the right click" again, so who knows, maybe it really wasn't so simple as we try to define it. Personally, I don't really think that we'll have any full electronic-driven record without a band (and I'm kind of glad about it).
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Post by FallenEvArmy on Feb 13, 2013 4:55:11 GMT -5
Okay, after this interview I think that Amy's "electronic phase" was really just a phase, same as the "folk phase" back then, and she seems happy with everything she did on Ev3, adding that she would never release something she's not fully satisfied with. She also claims here that with the Steve Lillywhite it "wasn't the right click" again, so who knows, maybe it really wasn't so simple as we try to define it. Personally, I don't really think that we'll have any full electronic-driven record without a band (and I'm kind of glad about it). I think people tend to forget that the Origin era is very electronic driven, and yet it's still very 'rock' at the same time. I've never had any problems with the idea of them going in an electronic direction.
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Post by rionka on Feb 13, 2013 6:49:32 GMT -5
FallenEvArmy yes, in fact they're a bit electronic-influenced ALL the time, but in same time it's still heavy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 11:05:35 GMT -5
Okay, after this interview I think that Amy's "electronic phase" was really just a phase, same as the "folk phase" back then, and she seems happy with everything she did on Ev3, adding that she would never release something she's not fully satisfied with. She also claims here that with the Steve Lillywhite it "wasn't the right click" again, so who knows, maybe it really wasn't so simple as we try to define it. Personally, I don't really think that we'll have any full electronic-driven record without a band (and I'm kind of glad about it). I think people tend to forget that the Origin era is very electronic driven, and yet it's still very 'rock' at the same time. I've never had any problems with the idea of them going in an electronic direction. Actually the term "electronic" would be wrong for their sound. Industrial would be more accurate. Even though you consider their sound, either past or present, as electronic or electro-driven at least, that Lillywhite sessions still wouldn't be electro, because the sound was more trip-hop rather than electronic, from what we have gathered from snippets, videos etc. There is a big difference.
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Post by FallenEvArmy on Feb 13, 2013 13:56:23 GMT -5
I think people tend to forget that the Origin era is very electronic driven, and yet it's still very 'rock' at the same time. I've never had any problems with the idea of them going in an electronic direction. Actually the term "electronic" would be wrong for their sound. Industrial would be more accurate. Even though you consider their sound, either past or present, as electronic or electro-driven at least, that Lillywhite sessions still wouldn't be electro, because the sound was more trip-hop rather than electronic, from what we have gathered from snippets, videos etc. There is a big difference. Then Amy herself would be wrong also, because she was the one that said they were taking the electronic route. I'm not one to categorize music so specifically, it drives me crazy. But I agree, Origin is more industrial, but it's still made with electronic elements and that's what I was referring to.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Feb 13, 2013 14:37:39 GMT -5
I think people tend to forget that the Origin era is very electronic driven, and yet it's still very 'rock' at the same time. I've never had any problems with the idea of them going in an electronic direction. Actually the term "electronic" would be wrong for their sound. Industrial would be more accurate. Even though you consider their sound, either past or present, as electronic or electro-driven at least, that Lillywhite sessions still wouldn't be electro, because the sound was more trip-hop rather than electronic, from what we have gathered from snippets, videos etc. There is a big difference. The only stuff of Evanescence that I would consider "industrial" is most of the stuff on Origin and a few heavier songs before Origin, like "Understanding" (both), "The End," "Whisper" (Sound Asleep EP, Origin, and 2001/2002 Demo), and MAYBE "Forever You," "Surrender," and "Haunted" (demos). Calling Fallen and the Lillywhite stuff "industrial" doesn't sit right with me.
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Thomas
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Post by Thomas on Feb 13, 2013 18:26:51 GMT -5
I think people tend to forget that the Origin era is very electronic driven, and yet it's still very 'rock' at the same time. I've never had any problems with the idea of them going in an electronic direction. Actually the term "electronic" would be wrong for their sound. Industrial would be more accurate. Even though you consider their sound, either past or present, as electronic or electro-driven at least, that Lillywhite sessions still wouldn't be electro, because the sound was more trip-hop rather than electronic, from what we have gathered from snippets, videos etc. There is a big difference. You're 100% right. It's not "electronic" at all. Usually, people associate 'electro' to pop and dance music, but it would be cooler than that.
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Post by carolexodus on Feb 13, 2013 22:07:23 GMT -5
I've always thought it wasn't impossible at all for the band to mix their famous rock sound with electronic/trip-hop/industrial/whatever music they were doing back in that "electronic" era. It's not like those electronic elements or whatever were so, so, so far away from Ev's music, they've always incorporated different stuff to their music, so i never thought it was going to be something absolutely out of what the band would do.
Noone knows what happened, but i have the feeling that maybe if the label had encouraged them to go on with that material and hadn't suggested the band to go more Evanescence (aka Fallen, cause that's what i think they wanted to archieve, something more like Fallen and less like TOD), who knows? Maybe we would have that more experimental album in our hands now.
I don't think Amy made Ev3 just out of compromise and isn't happy with the album, i'm sure she's super happy with it, we know how passionate she is about the music she helps create, but maybe they all needed some sort of support when trying different things and they certainly didn't get it from their own label. If they weren't too sure or the recording process wasn't going the best way, i guess that having your record label telling you to change what you're doing and not giving support has to be a big turn off. I'll always wonder how things would have turned out if the label said: "keep going guys, we love what you're doing". Maybe that was the extra confidence they needed.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by X on Feb 13, 2013 22:08:28 GMT -5
Actually, they are still correct when they classify those songs/album as 'Electronic' music, after all it's an umbrella term.
EDIT: I think I'm the only one who feel like the fans also have to do with them going back to rock. I remember that a large portion of the fan base are really uncomfortable with the idea of them going electronic for the 3rd album and thinks that they are going Techno. I mean, even Amy went to the board and tried to sell the idea of them having major electronic influence for the new record and has to clarify that they're not making Techno music. I think the fans negative reception may have also alarmed Wind Up and they in turn want them to go back to their rock roots. Though, I think Amy won a large portion of the fan base when she posted some twitvids from the session, but it may have been too late.
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Post by Titanic on Feb 13, 2013 22:19:12 GMT -5
Swimming Home is in the genre of Chillout Electronica for sure, so I'm sure she was definitely going down the electro route. Electro-dance music is entirely different though. It's electronic but not smooth with calm hypnotic synths, cool vocal effects, and chill sonics, etc.
I know because Christina Aguilera did a lot of Chillout Electronica material for the deluxe version of Bionic, so I loved it and naturally appreciated Amy going down that route too. Sad to see only a few songs made it intact as electronica cuts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 7:24:52 GMT -5
Actually the term "electronic" would be wrong for their sound. Industrial would be more accurate. Even though you consider their sound, either past or present, as electronic or electro-driven at least, that Lillywhite sessions still wouldn't be electro, because the sound was more trip-hop rather than electronic, from what we have gathered from snippets, videos etc. There is a big difference. ..... Calling Fallen and the Lillywhite stuff "industrial" doesn't sit right with me. I didn't say Lillywhite sessions were industrial. I clearly said it was trip-hop. You guys are misinterpreting what I wrote. I don't think their music is industrial or electronic. I basically said that the things you say that are electronic about origin, fallen or others, are mostly industrial stuff. That also doesn't mean Fallen is an industrial album. That would be a blasphemy. We are talking about influences here, not about an albums whole sound or simply bands sound, like someone above stated wrongly.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Feb 14, 2013 13:00:24 GMT -5
..... Calling Fallen and the Lillywhite stuff "industrial" doesn't sit right with me. I didn't say Lillywhite sessions were industrial. I clearly said it was trip-hop. You guys are misinterpreting what I wrote. I don't think their music is industrial or electronic. I basically said that the things you say that are electronic about origin, fallen or others, are mostly industrial stuff. That also doesn't mean Fallen is an industrial album. That would be a blasphemy. We are talking about influences here, not about an albums whole sound or simply bands sound, like someone above stated wrongly. Well stating that "electronic" would be the wrong term and that industrial is the correct term implies that you mean anything with some sort of electronic sound or vibe would be industrial. And actually, the term "electronic," when speaking of sounds, would be correct since industrial is a particular sound and genre pertaining to an atmospheric sound of a band or artist. "Electronic," when talking about Evanescence, usually means the electronic sounds they use in their music. The Lillywhite stuff I would say is in the right direction of "electronic" because of the songs being upbeat and the use of sampled sounds from a database. Pertaining to the bolded text: Please do not take everything so seriously. This is a DISCUSSION board for members to discuss their opinions. We're just discussing what others feel is electronic and what is not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 13:37:59 GMT -5
I didn't say Lillywhite sessions were industrial. I clearly said it was trip-hop. You guys are misinterpreting what I wrote. I don't think their music is industrial or electronic. I basically said that the things you say that are electronic about origin, fallen or others, are mostly industrial stuff. That also doesn't mean Fallen is an industrial album. That would be a blasphemy. We are talking about influences here, not about an albums whole sound or simply bands sound, like someone above stated wrongly. Well stating that "electronic" would be the wrong term and that industrial is the correct term implies that you mean anything with some sort of electronic sound or vibe would be industrial. And actually, the term "electronic," when speaking of sounds, would be correct since industrial is a particular sound and genre pertaining to an atmospheric sound of a band or artist. "Electronic," when talking about Evanescence, usually means the electronic sounds they use in their music. The Lillywhite stuff I would say is in the right direction of "electronic" because of the songs being upbeat and the use of sampled sounds from a database. Pertaining to the bolded text: Please do not take everything so seriously. This is a DISCUSSION board for members to discuss their opinions. We're just discussing what others feel is electronic and what is not. Why are you even blowing up on me? I'm quite aware that this is a DISCUSSION board. And I didn't say a bad thing about anyone. One more thing. No,actually it's quite the opposite. When you turn your caps lock on, it doesn't make the affect to take you seriously. So no, I'm not taking it seriously.
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