dekker87
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Post by dekker87 on Nov 19, 2017 22:32:38 GMT -5
Still waiting for mine, I expect it to arrive sometime this week. I think the full score is on the DVD? Yeah it's all on the DVD. Anyone know if the sheet music has been ripped from the DVD and put online anywhere yet?
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Nov 19, 2017 22:40:09 GMT -5
I think it depends on what type of shipping is used, I believe standard international air mail doesn't offer tracking so that's probably why. Mine came today. They put Australian instead of Australia.. so perhaps that’s why it took so long. A little disappointed the score book is only 2 somgs. The full score is on the DVD. All 194 pages of it! Mine came today. They put Australian instead of Australia.. so perhaps that’s why it took so long. A little disappointed the score book is only 2 somgs. Because you said this, I just noticed a mess up in the scorebook because it's suppose to be 3 songs. It should be "The In-Between". But they have Imperfection listed twice on accident. I took scans to show. They should have just done "The In-Between" & then "Imperfection". Instead of showing "The In-Between" going into "Imperfection" twice. Hmm, odd... Mine is not like that?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 23:39:02 GMT -5
Mine came today. They put Australian instead of Australia.. so perhaps that’s why it took so long. A little disappointed the score book is only 2 somgs. Still waiting for mine, I expect it to arrive sometime this week. I think the full score is on the DVD? I still haven't gotten mine and the messaging thing won't work on their website. Should I be concerned? It's been a little while.
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Post by The_Sacrificed on Nov 19, 2017 23:59:12 GMT -5
Mine came today. They put Australian instead of Australia.. so perhaps that’s why it took so long. A little disappointed the score book is only 2 somgs. The full score is on the DVD. All 194 pages of it! Because you said this, I just noticed a mess up in the scorebook because it's suppose to be 3 songs. It should be "The In-Between". But they have Imperfection listed twice on accident. I took scans to show. They should have just done "The In-Between" & then "Imperfection". Instead of showing "The In-Between" going into "Imperfection" twice. Hmm, odd... Mine is not like that? What does yours look like? It's weird, i have 2 beginning pages for Imperfection then. I just figured one was labeled wrong.
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Post by Andromeda - Evanescent-Killjoy on Nov 20, 2017 2:52:58 GMT -5
Still waiting for mine, I expect it to arrive sometime this week. I think the full score is on the DVD? Yeah it's all on the DVD. Awesome I didn’t get to really look at it and see it this morning when I got it. So looking forward to getting home and finally listening to the album and being able to actually contribute to this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 3:00:04 GMT -5
I emailed Kings Road about my box set. Hopefully they'll get back to me. I didn't spend over $200 for no reason.
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Post by The_Sacrificed on Nov 20, 2017 4:30:07 GMT -5
I emailed Kings Road about my box set. Hopefully they'll get back to me. I didn't spend over $200 for no reason. Did you get a vinyl with your order? It won't ship till December if you did.
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Post by dutchevfan on Nov 20, 2017 7:44:36 GMT -5
I agree with your second point. Not polished enough in either the production or the mixing/mastering for me. As I said before, it makes it sound more like a studio version of a live album, rather than an actual studio album. That and Amy's much freer, less polished vocals. After listening to Synthesis a few more times, I can honestly say it's not for me. And for the first time ever in Evanescence's career, it's Amy's voice that puts me off the most. I can hear every scoop she makes to hit a note, every time she doesn't quite nail it, every awkward change in vocal timbre mid word. Sorry to anyone I annoy by saying this because I know how much so many of you seem to love it, but Synthesis is definitely not for me. I just think it sounds a bit amateurish. I'm not really fussed on many of the electronic elements either if I'm honest - they so often sound awkward. And the mixing, the production, the rawness of Amy's voice...it just doesn't do it for me. There are definitely moments I like, but not enough for me to revisit Synthesis very often I think. I hope the next proper album a bit more polished. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm just trashing Synthesis for the sake of it - there just aren't really any other places I can share my thoughts on Evanescence other than here! I can totally see where you are coming from! After the newness and shock wore off, I started doing my usual critiquing of the album. Amy voice sounded off to me but then I realized it wasn't crazy produced and highly layered. Thinking back to the live shows I realized that this album is supposed to sound that way. Rough but not too rough. I think to show the difference between old and new. Idk. I don't feel like I'm making any sense. For me, that kind of unpolished sound is part of the charm for me (although there are definitely a few times it puts me off). These days a lot of music and voice is so (over)produced that you can't really hear the original quality (there may or may not have been). Especially in electronic music, now that I think about it, that might be why this album sounds weird to people, that 'live' (not overly produced) feeling combined with the electronics.
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Post by My Last Breath on Nov 20, 2017 7:57:29 GMT -5
Yeah it's all on the DVD. Anyone know if the sheet music has been ripped from the DVD and put online anywhere yet? Not sure, but they are just PDFs I could try and email them to you?
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Post by clambats on Nov 20, 2017 11:13:22 GMT -5
The raw treatment of Amy's vocals exactly what I wanted to hear. On TOD she sounded like she was singing through a plastic tube, it actually hurt my ears. On Evanescence they layered it to the point where almost all emotion was lost in it. FINALLY on Synthesis we get to hear what she actually sounds like instead of some over-produced woman that isn't Amy. Occasionally there are rough patches, like the end of Lost in Paradise or End of the Dream, but on the whole she sounds incredible. I am happy just to have a recording of Secret Door where her voice sounds clear and beautiful instead of loud and overbearing. And LITHIUM. She expresses so much emotion in this performance its insane. She reaches Tori Amos levels here. I've never felt more connected to her as an artist then when I heard the way she lets loose on Synthesis.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 12:23:43 GMT -5
I emailed Kings Road about my box set. Hopefully they'll get back to me. I didn't spend over $200 for no reason. Did you get a vinyl with your order? It won't ship till December if you did. Oh. Yeah. I just assumed part of my order would ship separately though.
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Nov 20, 2017 12:25:57 GMT -5
And LITHIUM. She expresses so much emotion in this performance its insane. She reaches Tori Amos levels here. I've never felt more connected to her as an artist then when I heard the way she lets loose on Synthesis. Completely agree with you. I know this one of the least popular remakes because it doesn't really do anything new to the song, but this is precisely why it's one of my favourites. It's so raw and powerful. As much as the original will always hold a special place in my heart (it's definitely one of my top Ev songs), it's great to hear it with all of the natural tone of Amy's voice (warts 'an all). I think this is why LIP is so much better for me on Synthesis, too. It just feels (a)live. There's a lot to be said for sometimes just listening back to a track and going, yeah, it's not perfect, and we could do so much to improve this, but this is what I sound really sound like. It's a hard thing to explain, but once you whack on too much eq, compression, reverb and all the rest you start losing some of the character that makes a voice sound unique.
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Post by dekker87 on Nov 20, 2017 13:57:15 GMT -5
And LITHIUM. She expresses so much emotion in this performance its insane. She reaches Tori Amos levels here. I've never felt more connected to her as an artist then when I heard the way she lets loose on Synthesis. Completely agree with you. I know this one of the least popular remakes because it doesn't really do anything new to the song, but this is precisely why it's one of my favourites. It's so raw and powerful. As much as the original will always hold a special place in my heart (it's definitely one of my top Ev songs), it's great to hear it with all of the natural tone of Amy's voice (warts 'an all). I think this is why LIP is so much better for me on Synthesis, too. It just feels (a)live. There's a lot to be said for sometimes just listening back to a track and going, yeah, it's not perfect, and we could do so much to improve this, but this is what I sound really sound like. It's a hard thing to explain, but once you whack on too much eq, compression, reverb and all the rest you start losing some of the character that makes a voice sound unique. I think that's the main reason I love Synthesis. Is because her vocals sound live. Not a lot of layers and effects. A live studio version.
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Post by shaun on Nov 20, 2017 14:46:42 GMT -5
Thought I'd update my thoughts on the album now its been over a week.
Im still loving it. My favourite tracks are still NGB and EOD which before Synthesis were at the bottom in my list of favourite Ev songs. Im reading a lot of comments from people about the "unpolished" tone of the album. I think this is intentonal to be honest guys, and I happen to like it, it sounds more "real", natural and its artistic choice I think, and if you're one of those fans like me who was so bloody familiar with Amy's voice it borders on obsessive from watching just about every live or acoustic video/recording out there then there shouldn't be anything off-putting about Synthesis at all.
Its worth noting also, that if you're listening with a rubbish pair of headphones from a streaming app like Spotify or Amazon, you are not getting the best experience. Listen to the CD on your laptop and crank up you're bass a little, you can do this on your volume controls, and it will sound a lot fuller and heavier, for lack of a better word.
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Post by turdyturderson on Nov 20, 2017 16:33:25 GMT -5
Thought I'd update my thoughts on the album now its been over a week. Im still loving it. My favourite tracks are still NGB and EOD which before Synthesis were at the bottom in my list of favourite Ev songs. Im reading a lot of comments from people about the "unpolished" tone of the album. I think this is intentonal to be honest guys, and I happen to like it, it sounds more "real", natural and its artistic choice I think, and if you're one of those fans like me who was so bloody familiar with Amy's voice it borders on obsessive from watching just about every live or acoustic video/recording out there then there shouldn't be anything off-putting about Synthesis at all. Its worth noting also, that if you're listening with a rubbish pair of headphones from a streaming app like Spotify or Amazon, you are not getting the best experience. Listen to the CD on your laptop and crank up you're bass a little, you can do this on your volume controls, and it will sound a lot fuller and heavier, for lack of a better word. Having somewhat worked in audio alongside my husband who is a producer/mixing engineer, I think, really, if anything, the issue is not in her performance. Her performance is incredible. It is in the fact that the vocals are overcompressed and dry, and what is unnatural about it is the lack of reverb. That’s why we are hearing every mouth noise, scoop, imperfection, etc, overly emphasized. So, in this album, we have an imagery of her singing in front of an orchestra. The thing is, when our brains think orchestra, we expect huge chamber room with lots of reverb, so in order to have Amy’s vocal sit correctly in the mix, we expect to hear her vocal with the same reverb parameters. Having it be so dry makes it blatantly obvious that she sang it in a different setting and the mixing engineer plopped it in the middle of the instrumental track - almost like she sang karaoke to it in a dry booth. And of couse, the vocal volume is a little too high, so it’s hot in the mix. Does this make sense?
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