fishbowl
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Post by fishbowl on May 11, 2017 3:30:46 GMT -6
I just saw the announcement video now, I'm very excited! and another tour!
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Post by princeofpersia on May 11, 2017 4:43:22 GMT -6
And what a classy name. Synthesis. I like it  |
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Post by harridan on May 11, 2017 4:55:49 GMT -6
And what a classy name. Synthesis. I like it (Photo)synthesis might be a better title for all the fans from abroad who decide to see this live 😂 |
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darren
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Post by darren on May 11, 2017 5:27:36 GMT -6
I'm so excited for this project. I've been waiting for something like this when they first announced the original Ev3 album where Lilywhite was producer. I seriously cannot wait.
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TDS
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Post by TDS on May 11, 2017 8:21:39 GMT -6
Ok, i'm gonna burst everyone bubble and I'm sorry.
I don't like it, one bit.
I know she said a fourth album will come in 2018, but I wished they switched the projects on the schedule.
Who the fuck tours 3-4 years without new music? Who the fuck tours with a full orchestra whith only three albums out and a bunch of demos?
Doest it mean that we give the old material one last shot and then we move on onto something else? Is this the end of some kind of era? WHY is a project that big, that is seriously more commonly happening when a band has more albums out, happening right now?
I.Don't.Get.It
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Post by turdyturderson on May 11, 2017 8:31:20 GMT -6
Ok, i'm gonna burst everyone bubble and I'm sorry. I don't like it, one bit. I know she said a fourth album will come in 2018, but I wished they switched the projects on the schedule. Who the f*ck tours 3-4 years without new music? Who the f*ck tours with a full orchestra whith only three albums out and a bunch of demos? Doest it mean that we give the old material one last shot and then we move on onto something else? Is this the end of some kind of era? WHY is a project that big, that is seriously more commonly happening when a band has more albums out, happening right now? I.Don't.Get.It Because they can. Because she can. You can hop on and enjoy this ride or get off and wait for the next traditional album to come. Either way, she is satisfying the cravings of her own soul and I'm so happy for her that she can do that. I'm excited for it. And for that actual Ev4 album later on. I want all of it |
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Post by Rarkphoenix on May 11, 2017 9:39:08 GMT -6
Ok, i'm gonna burst everyone bubble and I'm sorry. I don't like it, one bit. I know she said a fourth album will come in 2018, but I wished they switched the projects on the schedule. Who the f*ck tours 3-4 years without new music? Who the f*ck tours with a full orchestra whith only three albums out and a bunch of demos? Doest it mean that we give the old material one last shot and then we move on onto something else? Is this the end of some kind of era? WHY is a project that big, that is seriously more commonly happening when a band has more albums out, happening right now? I.Don't.Get.It I think money's involved here. With the music industry the way it is at the moment, you can't realistically live with Evanescence's big long cycles of 1 year writing and recording, 1 year touring and 3-4 years off, because quite simply, very few people buy albums anymore. Without label backing, it's just not sustainable. It's always sad to me when business gets in the way of something as whimsical and artistic as Evanescence, but they are still a business and you have to be realistic to a point. Touring, selling tickets and selling merch at gigs does still make money. Call me a cynic, and I'd be very surprised if it's the only motive, but it's got to be at least part of the reason we're having a 'nostalgia era' at the moment. They're trying to do shrewd music industry business in a way that only they know how (i.e. not particularly well and spending additional money they needn't spend in the process - like the boxsets - because they're still artists and they still care about the finished product more than as a product to sell). There's been a big move lately from big rock and metal bands from their generation to quite publicly sell out (and I'm not even using that term in a condescending hipster fashion); they're selling out because they have to to maintain a career. I'm not saying Evanescence are selling out, because I genuinely think Amy in particular is actually incapable of doing that, she can't do anything if it feels fake or to simply make ends meet, but touring and re-releasing old work sells and capitalises on a nostalgic fanbase. As a fan I'm not complaining and will happily lap that up because I care about the music and the band, but that's the reality of it. New music is expensive and rarely pays the bills. I'm hopeful for 2k18 and the new pieces on this upcoming project. At least they're doing another 'greatest hits' in an artistic an interesting way. Seriously, check out My Dying Bride's Evinta double album if you get the chance. Very similar concept based on taking an entire careers work and reimagining it in an electro/orchestral style, but they were on a tiny budget in comparison with Ev (and no genius composer/orchestra to work with). |
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Post by princeofpersia on May 11, 2017 9:48:13 GMT -6
Ok, i'm gonna burst everyone bubble and I'm sorry. I don't like it, one bit. I know she said a fourth album will come in 2018, but I wished they switched the projects on the schedule. Who the f*ck tours 3-4 years without new music? Who the f*ck tours with a full orchestra whith only three albums out and a bunch of demos? Doest it mean that we give the old material one last shot and then we move on onto something else? Is this the end of some kind of era? WHY is a project that big, that is seriously more commonly happening when a band has more albums out, happening right now? I.Don't.Get.It I can't understand all this rage and negative thoughts.  plz keep calm. since months ago Amy clearly has said for dozens of time that this announcement is not gonna be a whole new thing at all and it's just a different way of listening to Ev and insisted on releasing EV4 for next year. In just a two years schedule, they are gonna release 2 new albums and have at least 3-4 big tours all around the world and no need to mention other little side projects and Amy's solo works. isn't that exciting enough? What would be the difference if they release EV4 this year and release Synthesis next year? do you think it would be even possible to release a smaller project like this just a year after a whole new album like EV4? to answer my question, I think no. they can't. for Synthesis, it's now or at least 3 years later when they recorded EV4, done all its promotions, recorded all the music videos, traveled all around the world and performed all tours etc and rested for quiet a long time. do you think I'm wrong? |
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Post by Rarkphoenix on May 11, 2017 9:54:05 GMT -6
Ok, i'm gonna burst everyone bubble and I'm sorry. I don't like it, one bit. I know she said a fourth album will come in 2018, but I wished they switched the projects on the schedule. Who the f*ck tours 3-4 years without new music? Who the f*ck tours with a full orchestra whith only three albums out and a bunch of demos? Doest it mean that we give the old material one last shot and then we move on onto something else? Is this the end of some kind of era? WHY is a project that big, that is seriously more commonly happening when a band has more albums out, happening right now? I.Don't.Get.It I don't understand all this rage negative thoughts. keep calm girl. since months ago Amy clearly has said for dozens of time that this announcement is not gonna be a whole new thing at all and it's just a different way of listening to Ev and insisted on releasing EV4 for next year. In just a two years schedule, they are gonna release 2 new albums and have at least 3-4 big tours all around the world and no need to mention other little side projects and Amy's solo works. isn't that exciting enough? What would be the difference if they release EV4 this year and release Synthesis next year? do you think it would be even possible to release a smaller project like this just a year after a whole new album like EV4? to answer my question, I think no. they can't. for Synthesis, it's now or at least 3 years later when they recorded EV4, done all its promotions, recorded all the music videos, traveled all around the world and performed all tours etc and rested for quiet a long time. do you think I'm wrong? Me being a cynic again, sorry  If you think about it. Synthesis and an orchestral tour is actually really good promotion for Ev4. Doing something this left of centre and attention grabbing right before dropping the news on the next album is a fantastic way to keep people's attention and should help the next album sell more. Evanescence have forever had the age old problem of people discovering their albums years after they're released because people's attention spans are so short that if they don't get an album from a band every year, they lose interest and assume they no longer exist. Big, dramatic, possibly televised orchestral moment in front of thousands of fans and then, "by the way we've got new material coming out imminently". THAT is how you make money in the music industry. |
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TDS
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Post by TDS on May 11, 2017 12:13:11 GMT -6
I can't understand all this rage and negative thoughts. plz keep calm. since months ago Amy clearly has said for dozens of time that this announcement is not gonna be a whole new thing at all and it's just a different way of listening to Ev and insisted on releasing EV4 for next year. In just a two years schedule, they are gonna release 2 new albums and have at least 3-4 big tours all around the world and no need to mention other little side projects and Amy's solo works. isn't that exciting enough? What would be the difference if they release EV4 this year and release Synthesis next year? do you think it would be even possible to release a smaller project like this just a year after a whole new album like EV4? to answer my question, I think no. they can't. for Synthesis, it's now or at least 3 years later when they recorded EV4, done all its promotions, recorded all the music videos, traveled all around the world and performed all tours etc and rested for quiet a long time. do you think I'm wrong? Synthesis is by no means a smaller project, from what I understood. They are going to revamp the songs and adapt them for a full orchestra. Apart from the lyrics and the theme of each song, I see a lot of work behind this. It's probably going to be more challenging than an album for them. It's just that I feel like they don't have enough material for that sort of things. And please don't patronize me. I didn't insulte anyone, I just used harsh words to better convey my feelings about this project Maybe we could guess what would be the songs? I have a feeling about these: Lacrymosa Lithium Your Star Whisper Imaginary Lost in Paradise Swimming Home Secret Door Oceans My Immortal Together Again (fingers crossed) Missing The Change |
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Post by Rarkphoenix on May 11, 2017 12:24:11 GMT -6
I really want the Like You/Lose Control segue to be in there. There's just an indescribable atmosphere to that part of T.O.D. that takes some beating. If they can just have an atmospheric section that works its way through this chord progression/transition with some haunting synthetic and orchestral sounds in huge sounding stereo, I can genuinely see this bringing me to tears.
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Post by jessicawhatsername on May 11, 2017 12:28:23 GMT -6
i'm not sure how i feel to be truthful. because not every old Ev song is gonna click with a full orchestra, especially Bring Me to Life.
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Post by Rarkphoenix on May 11, 2017 12:32:12 GMT -6
I'm getting the chills just thinking about this. This has the potential to be so good.
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Post by Lycrymosa on May 11, 2017 14:09:39 GMT -6
It would be very expensive to transport a full orchestra around the globe, my guess is it's going to be US only, but they might surprise us. Hopefully they head down our way and play at least a show in Sydney and Auckland, you're in NZ right? The issue of the orchestra is easily overcome by utilising them form each country they tour, no need to bring everything with them. Fingers crossed though!!! As much as I would love them to come here it's probably unrealistic as it would be difficult to travel to another country and then have to rehearse with a completely new orchestra on such a tight schedule. It wouldn't be a great money maker for them. It's likely going to me a small tour in the US because even travelling across the US with a whole orchestra will be extremely costly. I think people need to expect much higher ticket prices too. Is this going to be a seated event? In which case that's less people to spread the cost over plus the cost of the orchestra also needs to be covered. I think it will be worth the price for the experience though. |
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Post by mydnyghtamethyst on May 11, 2017 14:12:45 GMT -6
Ok, i'm gonna burst everyone bubble and I'm sorry. I don't like it, one bit. I know she said a fourth album will come in 2018, but I wished they switched the projects on the schedule. Who the f*ck tours 3-4 years without new music? Who the f*ck tours with a full orchestra whith only three albums out and a bunch of demos? Doest it mean that we give the old material one last shot and then we move on onto something else? Is this the end of some kind of era? WHY is a project that big, that is seriously more commonly happening when a band has more albums out, happening right now? I.Don't.Get.It I know you've had a lot of responses to your post but I just want to say, as I have add in the BUILD series thread. I believe this shows Amy is still connected to older work, bringing something that may be cringe worthy to her to make it relevant to now. While Jen has been with the band for nearly 2 years now, I feel maybe revisiting old songs in a new way can not only immerse Jen into the history of the band but also the guys. If you think, Terry was -up until his departure- the second "oldest" member of the band. There is some debate in that validity due to Ev being inactive, but even Ben only spent from 94/95-03, about 9 years. Where as Terry remained for about 12 years, until his leave was announced in Aug. 2015. I guess this doesn't make sense, but I feel the need to make those connection and sort of "go back to the roots" but in a new way is good. This is something different and while it's not "all brand new" I am hoping it feels refreshing. Honestly, if a "regular" Ev album wasn't being promised, I might feel the same. On that note, as stated with Amy's pregnancy, I was prepared to possibly let go of Ev for a long time. Yes, they had the hiatus, but that didn't happen. This is by no means directed towards you, it is just something I was thinking about, you know you have these fans that say Amy can't produce material, but if you look at everything we've gotten since she broke free from Wind-Up: Find A Way-Live performances (2013) Aftermath (10 tracks, 2014) Recover Vol. 1 (4 tracks, 2015) Dream To Much (10 tracks, 2016) Even In Death (2016) Speak To Me (2017) Blind movie song (2017?) Synthesis (2017?) Ev4/Ev5 (2018?) *This is by no mean to spark controversy of past members or to belittle anyone's opinions etc. Just my view point of the project and the state of the fandom.* EDIT: Fixed mistakes. Was in a hurry as I posted this in class and times was almost up. |
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plz keep calm. since months ago Amy clearly has said for dozens of time that this announcement is not gonna be a whole new thing at all and it's just a different way of listening to Ev and insisted on releasing EV4 for next year.
If you think about it. Synthesis and an orchestral tour is actually really good promotion for Ev4. Doing something this left of centre and attention grabbing right before dropping the news on the next album is a fantastic way to keep people's attention and should help the next album sell more. Evanescence have forever had the age old problem of people discovering their albums years after they're released because people's attention spans are so short that if they don't get an album from a band every year, they lose interest and assume they no longer exist. Big, dramatic, possibly televised orchestral moment in front of thousands of fans and then, "by the way we've got new material coming out imminently". THAT is how you make money in the music industry.
