Darkaurore
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Post by Darkaurore on Jan 31, 2017 12:24:34 GMT -5
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Post by acoustic_ev on Jun 25, 2017 16:58:21 GMT -5
The full concert is available here: youtu.be/SuWcXnoH9QgWhat's really interesting is Amy's speech toward the end at 1:06:30 where she gets mildly political as well as unifying. Does anyone know if there were any problems with them getting to perform in Russia or do we think she's being more broad given how our relationship with the country is so stained? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 19:03:35 GMT -5
The full concert is available here: youtu.be/SuWcXnoH9QgWhat's really interesting is Amy's speech toward the end at 1:06:30 where she gets mildly political as well as unifying. Does anyone know if there were any problems with them getting to perform in Russia or do we think she's being more broad given how our relationship with the country is so stained? That was such a beautiful introduction to Disappear. It kind of makes you wonder if maybe there were friends or fans of the band who took issue with them playing in Russia. It was an important message because group differences seem to be at an all time high, especially considering the nature of the "us versus them" mentality between the US and Russia. Russia's been central to the news in the US for quite some time. I'm not sure to what extent the US is discussed in Russian news outlets. But all of this is definitely creating a rift on a more individual level and people here are focusing on Russia as "the enemy" and maybe vice versa. People are focusing on the differences and ignoring the fact that we're all the same. I was a bit surprised they were playing in Russia and also kind of happy that they didn't let a little tension come between them and the fans....to see this didn't go unnoticed and that she gave such an empowering message has given me so much respect for her and the band. Even if our nations don't get along or there's tension between our governments, we can still connect on an individual level with others. It's easy enough to dehumanize someone you perceive as different, but if you really try to connect, you'll see the humanity you both share. Actually, many of us probably have some degree of bias toward people of a different race, nationality, faith, sexuality, etc. If any of you do, the Internet is a big place that makes it so easy to connect- I highly encourage you to connect with someone from a group you don't think you understand. You'll realize that you're the same- you both have beliefs, ambitions, cares, hobbies, love... It's important to remember that. It's important to combat the ignorance. |
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Post by princeofpersia on Jun 26, 2017 6:51:38 GMT -5
Wow! really?! thank you dude! thank you! thank you! oh ... It's fan recorded... but still nice. thanks for sharing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 10:11:04 GMT -5
It sounds like they were cheering "Evanescence" before the encore. If that's the case, it's refreshing. I hate that at so many shows, fans only chant "Amy" as if she's the only entity contributing to the show or the band or their music. I get that she's the central figure to the band and all, but it strikes me as a bit rude to the rest of the band who also pour their blood, sweat, and tears into Evanescence.
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Jun 26, 2017 11:21:24 GMT -5
It sounds like they were cheering "Evanescence" before the encore. If that's the case, it's refreshing. I hate that at so many shows, fans only chant "Amy" as if she's the only entity contributing to the show or the band or their music. I get that she's the central figure to the band and all, but it strikes me as a bit rude to the rest of the band who also pour their blood, sweat, and tears into Evanescence. THIS. We were chanting it at the London shows too, I can't remember this happening at an Ev show since the Fallen era. EV'S BACK BABY! Back (briefly) on the political side of things. I must admit I was intrigued when they decided to play in both Russia and Ukraine (given the even greater division between these two countries in recent years). I think it was partly intentional on the band/management's part. Why play one and not the other? We're all family and certainly between Ev fans we don't discriminate based on where we come from or even political leanings (one look at the politics thread on here will tell you we really do come from all beliefs and walks of life). It's one thing I really love about Amy's mentality. She has her personal views, like everyone does, but she doesn't seek to impose them on anyone. No one should have to feel alienated and alone. The thing that gets me is that they could easily have avoided touring in both countries so as not to seem to favour one or the other and to avoid any perceived safety threat of an American band in places Americans aren't popular, but that would be generalising hugely and feeding the people that seek to divide us. As it was the Ev fanbase in Russia absolutely proved that they're welcome and went above and beyond to welcome them (the custom Gusli gift is absolutely one of the most beautiful presents I've ever seen them given, I was blown away when I saw that). I feel so proud to be an Evanescence fan right now  |
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Post by Psypher on Jun 26, 2017 14:30:30 GMT -5
I always assumed people just yelled "Amy" because it was quicker to say...  But yeah it bothers me too. |
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Jun 26, 2017 15:31:09 GMT -5
I always assumed people just yelled "Amy" because it was quicker to say... But yeah it bothers me too. The 'Ev-a-ne-scence' chant is really difficult to get right with a few thousand people too. When it works it sounds amazing though XD |
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Post by justanillusion on Jul 2, 2017 10:21:10 GMT -5
The full concert is available here: youtu.be/SuWcXnoH9QgWhat's really interesting is Amy's speech toward the end at 1:06:30 where she gets mildly political as well as unifying. Does anyone know if there were any problems with them getting to perform in Russia or do we think she's being more broad given how our relationship with the country is so stained? That was such a beautiful introduction to Disappear. It kind of makes you wonder if maybe there were friends or fans of the band who took issue with them playing in Russia. Not that I know of. Despite all the political crap that's been going on in the world a lot of American, European, etc. bands come to Russia and have a blast here. I'm actually surprised *you* guys are surprised Ev decided to play Moscow and Spb (and Kiev). Why not? Music is not about politics. That's pretty much it. I didn't expect to hear such a speech from Amy either, though. I don't remember her say something like that during shows at all. But I think that in spite of the unofficial cold war between US and Russia, Amy could also mean terrorism (there were a few explosions during gigs in the past year or two). Either way, Disappear is a powerful song and that was a powerful introduction. PS. People did cheer "Amy" before the encore, too, because it's indeed easier and quicker to cheer (but I agree it's not cool in regards to the rest of the band members). |
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Jul 2, 2017 13:07:08 GMT -5
That was such a beautiful introduction to Disappear. It kind of makes you wonder if maybe there were friends or fans of the band who took issue with them playing in Russia. Not that I know of. Despite all the political crap that's been going on in the world a lot of American, European, etc. bands come to Russia and have a blast here. I'm actually surprised *you* guys are surprised Ev decided to play Moscow and Spb (and Kiev). Why not? Music is not about politics. That's pretty much it. You're damn right. As usual, I think it's often the world's media making a big deal out of nothing and actually escalating things in the process. The supposed 'conflict' between Russia and the US and Russia and Ukraine is almost always in the news over here which is why I initially found it surprising. It doesn't mean that there's necessarily any substance to it and it certainly shouldn't stop a rock 'n roll show. Music transcends political boundaries (: |
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But yeah it bothers me too. 