carolexodus
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Post by carolexodus on Aug 26, 2014 11:46:23 GMT -5
I think it was a bit of a marketing strategy to put it as an Amy' Lee solo album feat. Dave Eggar, Amy's name is always going to draw more interest than Dave's, since she's the front woman of a famous band, so I understand that it was misleading for some. However, like you guys said, it's only their fault if they didn't bother to read atleast an article or the album cover where it's specified that it's a soundtrack for War Story and not a solo album by Amy. What I can't understand though are the rude comments, saying she's nothing with Evanescence, or that it was crap, a shitty album, and then the ones bringing up Ben Moody, so unnecessary and embarrasing. I decided to go through those comments on Amy's FB page and on Youtube and I agree, most of those complaining and being disappointed seemed to be misinformed, many didn't even know it was a soundtrack for a movie, let alone that said movie was a dramatic one like WS, so they were expecting guitars, vocals in every songs and all the typical Ev sound, even though the album was clearly not an Ev album. It's because people don't read what's right in front of them or just listen to rumors. Let them be idiots and be misinformed. It's their own damn fault. Lol. No, it's always better to be the nice one, respectfully give correct info, then be disrespected, yelled at and told we have no idea what we are talking about. Lol. Lol, yeah, some of them lost their shit I guess
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Post by arte5415 on Aug 26, 2014 12:25:28 GMT -5
not speak English, sorry Amy Lee, you are the greatest genius of music, i love disco Me tienen enferma las criticas de los supuestos fans de Evanescence, los muy idiotas están hablando de Ben, para mi este disco es la prueba fehaciente e indiscutible que Amy fue, es y sera la fuerza creadora de Evanescence, ya tenia la prueba con WATF un disco plano en música y letra a pesar de tener a David en la creación. Estoy segura que Amy tuvo un montón de diversion al hacer este disco y se nota, un disco ligero, sexy, profundo y fuerte a la vez, letras simples y al mismo tiempo muy profundas, la música inquietantemete bella, profunda y ligera, se combina a la perfección, y esos pequeños toques que te dejan sorprendido, realmente no se que decir, sabia que Amy es muy talentosa, pero esto demuestra que es un genio, y estoy segura que obtendremos mas, viva la libertad. Estoy tan feliz con este disco CSM. sorry guys, could not help myself, I promise not to do it again. Read more: evthreads.proboards.com/thread/1838/aftermath-album-discussion-thread?page=3#ixzz3BWIIXDhW
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Post by Titanic on Aug 26, 2014 13:07:23 GMT -5
Loving Amyguilera on Push The Button. And the Arabic influences!
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Post by Himmelslicht on Aug 26, 2014 13:42:43 GMT -5
not speak English, sorry Amy Lee, you are the greatest genius of music, i love disco Me tienen enferma las criticas de los supuestos fans de Evanescence, los muy idiotas están hablando de Ben, para mi este disco es la prueba fehaciente e indiscutible que Amy fue, es y sera la fuerza creadora de Evanescence, ya tenia la prueba con WATF un disco plano en música y letra a pesar de tener a David en la creación. Estoy segura que Amy tuvo un montón de diversion al hacer este disco y se nota, un disco ligero, sexy, profundo y fuerte a la vez, letras simples y al mismo tiempo muy profundas, la música inquietantemete bella, profunda y ligera, se combina a la perfección, y esos pequeños toques que te dejan sorprendido, realmente no se que decir, sabia que Amy es muy talentosa, pero esto demuestra que es un genio, y estoy segura que obtendremos mas, viva la libertad. Estoy tan feliz con este disco CSM. sorry guys, could not help myself, I promise not to do it again. Read more: evthreads.proboards.com/thread/1838/aftermath-album-discussion-thread?page=3#ixzz3BWIIXDhWPuedes utilizar el traductor próxima vez, no hay problema. Esta en contra de las reglas hablar otro idioma que no sea inglés. Translation: You can use translator next time, no problem. Is against the rules to speak a language other than English.
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Ring
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Post by Ring on Aug 26, 2014 14:38:00 GMT -5
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Post by darren on Aug 26, 2014 15:16:58 GMT -5
For the little promotion that 'Aftermath' has had it's been pretty successful to break into the Top 40 chart. Makes me feel so proud when I see Amy or Evanescence in the UK music charts. GO AMY!!
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Aug 26, 2014 18:10:23 GMT -5
ALL THE CELLO! EDIT - but yeah, I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea and it's good that people are willing to pull out aspects they dislike rather than just liking it because it's 'Amy's album' and everything Amy writes is 'perfect' etc. etc. Personally, I find it grows on me and you have to listen to it a fair few times start to finish to really 'get' it, so I'd recommend anyone who doesn't get it to perhaps give it a few listens in a dark room with no distractions and make up their mind based on that. I don't know if they did it on purpose or not though it would make a sense and I'd do it myself too. If I had made an album with my good friend, when it came to putting it out I would ask myself "which of us is more famous?" Not because of the money, but as an artist I think you'd want to have as many listeners as possible so that you can reach more and more people. But if I were to be absolutely honest I would have written "Aftermath by Amy Lee and Dave Eggar" and would have put Amy firs solely because her name starts with A and Dave's with D, cause I'm a sucker for alphabetical order. Yes, I knew what this album was, WE all knew what it was but we had been following the project for months, and I've read all the articles regarding it to the point I knew some piece/song titles before they were released, like we all did. But there others who don't read music articles at all, or who don't have time, and who just saw a tweet from Amy saying "my new album and soundtrack, preorder" and the iTunes description doesn't help either "White Out (feat. Dave Eggar), Remember to breathe (feat. Dave Eggar)...) it just makes it seem like an Amy Lee album where some guy was featured playing guitar or something. Cause most people out of USA don't even know who Dave Eggar is, let alone casual Evanescence fans. So, yes, it is their fault for expecting and Evanescence album, when it's clear that's not what they're gonna get. It's their fault for not taking the time to read for ten minutes about the album and informing themselves on what it is. Especially since the information IS there to be taken. But the album DID say "Amy Lee FEAT. DAVE EGGAR" and every single song was marked to be "FEAT. DAVE EGGAR" and yet there are a couple of score pieces that were not written by Amy, that didn't feature Amy and any way or form and they were labeled the same way. Amy was barel FEATURED in Dark Water actually, but then gain she produced it. Now, you're gonna say Amy produced the whole record but that's not true. There are plenty of tracks, according to the booklet, she didn't even touch. And even then, you don't advertise an album by its producer you don't write "FALLEN by Dave Fortman (feat. Evanescence)" This album was not an Amy Lee was a collaboration that features the work of two artists on equal degrees plus Chuck Palmer's work too. So as much as the people making this comments about the album being bad etc... ESPECIALLY those who make senseless, rude, cello comments (ahem) are to blame for their behavior; after all your attitude is yours. And it's up to you showing your good manners. I don't think we can blame those who feel disappointed entirely. I'd say it's 50% their fault for not informing themselves properly while the sources ARE available. And 50% on the guys who made, promoted the record, since they also gave an incomplete idea of what was going on the record. Naming wise. This is a very good point. I must admit there have been a fair few times when I've been discussing the album with people who have been out of the loop who're asking me what the "new Amy Lee album's like" and for those not into their film scores or collaborative works, it is a little bit complex to explain because "Amy Lee feat. Dave Eggar" is a massive misnomer and I would agree that, I would personally have had 'Amy Lee AND Dave Eggar' (in fact I'd have gone so far as to add Chuck Palmer's name in there, too). I think the issue we have, is that to be fair to all parties you'd end up having an artist title the same length as the artist credits and as you say, it's often more logical/sensible to go for the most popular/biggest selling contributor. So I can definitely see why people are getting confused. Then again, confusion shouldn't equate to ignorant and aggressive criticism. I would definitely support giving anything a decent chance and impartial observation before judging it. I can definitely get behind the 'doesn't do what it says on the tin' argument, as long as people don't start using it as the sole basis for their argument of it being crap. Aftermath is like finding honey in a baked bean tin. It's not what it should be, but for anybody unaware of the honey being poured in there in the first place, it has the potential to be a nice surprise. (I have the best analogies, I know )
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Ring
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Post by Ring on Aug 27, 2014 16:08:18 GMT -5
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Post by Himmelslicht on Aug 27, 2014 17:37:44 GMT -5
We have to be down-to-earth. - Amy is commonly known as "the chick from Evanescence". - This promoted an indie movie. The movie itself had more people watching because of Amy mainly. It's like a loop. - There was no promotion on this whatsoever, aside Amy herself, the other collaborators and the movie itself.
It only had this boost in sales because the fans went running to buy it. It had to be continuously promoted in big scale to keep having people buying it. It's the reality of things.
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Post by carolexodus on Aug 30, 2014 9:25:54 GMT -5
True^^ It's obvious that it was going to die down.
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Post by phoenixxx on Aug 31, 2014 10:08:23 GMT -5
I'm in love with this album. I didnt know where to ask this, but where can I send a thank you/appreciation letter/fanmail letter to Amy herself. How would I go about doing it? Where would I address it too, so I know forsure Amy herself can at least read it? thanks in advance if anyone can help me out...(:
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Post by Himmelslicht on Sept 2, 2014 6:24:57 GMT -5
I'm in love with this album. I didnt know where to ask this, but where can I send a thank you/appreciation letter/fanmail letter to Amy herself. How would I go about doing it? Where would I address it too, so I know forsure Amy herself can at least read it? thanks in advance if anyone can help me out...(: Nobody knows she will surely read it. Your best shot is on Twitter. That's how close you can get. twitter.com/amyleeev
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Post by rionka on Sept 2, 2014 6:40:10 GMT -5
Unfortunately Twitter is an outlet for fangirls too. So, the chances she can SEE you are the same. I would never believe she can read all the mentions, the amount has to be CRAZY.
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Post by Himmelslicht on Sept 2, 2014 9:27:06 GMT -5
Unfortunately Twitter is an outlet for fangirls too. So, the chances she can SEE you are the same. I would never believe she can read all the mentions, the amount has to be CRAZY. True. While you're reading a message, you already got more 20 at the same time, LOL.
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Sept 2, 2014 11:11:22 GMT -5
I'm in love with this album. I didnt know where to ask this, but where can I send a thank you/appreciation letter/fanmail letter to Amy herself. How would I go about doing it? Where would I address it too, so I know forsure Amy herself can at least read it? thanks in advance if anyone can help me out...(: I agree Twitter's probably the best. She'll often reply to genuinely relevant tweets if she sees them, but I'm sure there are plenty of people doing the generic 'Amy I love you. GIVE ME ATTENTION' tweet every five seconds and I doubt she has the time to sift through all that on a regular basis. I think if you don't spam her, send her something she's likely to appreciate/be interested in (given just how much negative reaction to the album seems to be on the internet at the moment, if she's stumbled across any of it, she'd definitely appreciate someone with something positive to say about it) and happen to be online when she is, she'll almost certainly give it a read at the very least (even if she doesn't respond).
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