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Post by Titanic on Apr 9, 2013 23:42:00 GMT -5
Well the vocals are better on the Twitvid version than the album version too... Probably because they're softer. And does she normally exclude the piano completely from her songs? I edited my earlier post to add 2 questions BTW. And I wonder about the second song she plays on the harp in this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=d77MdzBLe9gDo we know what these are? I also edited my post to answer your questions. What are you talking about with the second song? Are you talking about at 0:31 in that video? That's just the video (secret Door) sped up. The stuff that Amy writes on the piano does she exclude? It probably depends on the song. Like WYW, it's melody/chorus was written on the piano. When she showed it to Terry, he liked it and played it on guitar, thus one of the guitar parts of WYW was born. I'm sure as the song grows in it's writing process, stuff gets added and cut. It's natural. The fireplace song was most likely written after Ev3 tour and probably not intended to be on the album. Also, Perfect Rainy Sunday and Disappear are in a different key. Thank you! That's all I needed to know. Now I'm just hoping we get all this amazing material. But we got IYDM so I have some hope.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Apr 9, 2013 23:44:36 GMT -5
You're welcome.
I would like to see more harp on the next album (Evanescence or Solo).
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Post by Titanic on Apr 9, 2013 23:47:40 GMT -5
You're welcome. I would like to see more harp on the next album (Evanescence or Solo). Yes absolutely! IDK if she's already writing material, we may get something sooner than later? I didn't know the tour ended in Dec/Jan actually. This is kind of good so maybe they can plan what to release during a hiatus I hope.
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Post by Lycrymosa on Apr 10, 2013 4:22:32 GMT -5
how do we know Disappear isn't the way Amy intended it, she has never said otherwise. From what Amy has said in interviews, she doesn't write the lyrics to the songs until the melodies are pretty much complete, suggesting that at the time of the twitvid Disappear was most likely a rocky song already, Amy was just using the piano to help her along with the lyrics. I'm pretty sure shes has also said before that most, if not all the songs are born at the piano. Thats how she writes, she then uses the guys (or just one guy in the past) to write parts for the other instruments.
Ev has been a rock band long before Wind-Up, it's not something they were forced into, if anything it's the commercial stuff (like the rap in BMTL) that Wind-Up has ever forced upon Ev. Some of the pre fallen stuff is very electronic by still very rocky (the early version of Whisper and BMTL for example) and they got reworked for Fallen, so by the looks of things Wind-Up does not dig too much electronic vibe for some reason. I agree that for the next album, they should just let Ev do what they want, at least give them a chance and see what happens.
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Post by Titanic on Apr 10, 2013 10:38:10 GMT -5
Well in that case I suppose I'd love an acoustic piano version of some songs on Ev3. It is true that Ev has always been a Rock band, but honestly they've always delivered balanced records until now. Ev3 was too influenced by people other than Amy and I feel she should either release a solo project or an album of B-sides (like the Lillywhite sessions) as well as some acoustic versions of Ev3 material. Either or both are fine with me but I want to hear that soft hypnotic voice again. Also please don't confuse me for not liking Evanescence Rock material. I love it too. But only certain Rock songs on Ev3 felt like classic Evanescence, and the other songs should have been ballads/acoustic etc. Also I'm slightly bitter we didn't get those songs from the Twitvids.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Apr 10, 2013 14:57:49 GMT -5
The tour ended at the beginning of November I think. lol. Well in that case I suppose I'd love an acoustic piano version of some songs on Ev3. It is true that Ev has always been a Rock band, but honestly they've always delivered balanced records until now. Ev3 was too influenced by people other than Amy and I feel she should either release a solo project or an album of B-sides (like the Lillywhite sessions) as well as some acoustic versions of Ev3 material. Either or both are fine with me but I want to hear that soft hypnotic voice again. Also please don't confuse me for not liking Evanescence Rock material. I love it too. But only certain Rock songs on Ev3 felt like classic Evanescence, and the other songs should have been ballads/acoustic etc. Also I'm slightly bitter we didn't get those songs from the Twitvids. Well, most of the Ev3 songs had a lot of electronic stuff in it. You just have to listen carefully. I would love for an acoustic album but only if they'll be moving and up lifting. In my opinion most acoustic stuff, in general, is a bit boring. Though I would like if Evanescence released a CD of live arrangements of songs but done in the studio. Like Whisper, or the newer Imaginary versions, or MOS and Sick and lets not forget a studio version of the epic drums intro and outro (cologne 2003) to Farther Away.
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Post by moe on Apr 11, 2013 18:20:57 GMT -5
I thought I would want her to go solo, but from the twit vids we got during the Lillywhite sessions I just don't think I'd enjoy it, even though The Open Door is experimental and my favorite album Swimming Home is one of my least favorite off the new album and Together Again isn't really that great in my opinion, even though I still listen to and enjoy it wow.... you just hate all the good stuff, don't you?
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Post by gavin4713 on Apr 11, 2013 18:26:11 GMT -5
I thought I would want her to go solo, but from the twit vids we got during the Lillywhite sessions I just don't think I'd enjoy it, even though The Open Door is experimental and my favorite album Swimming Home is one of my least favorite off the new album and Together Again isn't really that great in my opinion, even though I still listen to and enjoy it wow.... you just hate all the good stuff, don't you? Yup
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Post by carolexodus on Apr 12, 2013 0:27:54 GMT -5
Hi new here, just wanted to give my 2 cents about the next step that should be taken since I know many people inside the music industry and record labels... If we want Evanescence to be successful and all over the radio again the next logical and business move to make is Amy Lee going solo. Since the 3rd album was a flop with no hit single and basically the whole world not even knowing they made a 3rd album, they need a new direction. If they want a commercial success like The Open Door (its impossible to compete with fallen sales, ever, now) Evanescence needs to take a break and Amy go solo for a album. She needs to collaborate with big name producers (timbaland, Redone, Randy Jackson, David Guetta, ect.) and huge pop stars (Adele, lady gaga, Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj)! It will remind the world that Amy Lee is still relevant and once Amy as a solo artist has a few hit songs then the momentum of a new evanescence album will grow and the demand of a 4th ev record will make the album successful without a doubt. And we will have more ev hits! That's what happened with Gwen stefani and it WILL happen with Ev! Yes, i think you're right about that strategy, but honestly, as a fan, i don't want Ev to be popular at all costs. If the cost is working with some of the artists you named there, i prefer the little popularity the band has now. I don't think something truly interesting would come out of a collab between Amy and Nicki Minaj, besides i can't stand her music or voice, so, no. I would take a collab between Guetta and Amy, though, that could be interesting, i like Sia's collab with Guetta, so i think something cool could come out of that. Who knows? On the Lillywhite sessions, it's obvious that those little videos weren't the final results, but they sounded interesting (especially the stompin steve song). I guess that the one thing that made me the most excited about getting that music on Ev3 was the fact that, at that time, Amy was taking serious inspiration from a bunch of artists that make cool music (depeche mode, massive, portishead, MGMT, Cansei de ser sexy, etc) and the whole team seemed to be willing to experiment with sounds and include new instruments. All that made me think that the music was going to be something different from their previous works, so of course i was excited. After 5 years we were getting a new Ev album with a brand new sound and not just a spìn-off of Fallen or TOD to keep the masses happy (I'm not saying that Ev3 is a spin-off of the other albums to keep the masses happy, but certainly the label was trying to channel a bit of that Fallenish vibe with catchy and easy rock songs and a ballad ala MI).
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Post by mydnyghtamethyst on Apr 13, 2013 11:12:55 GMT -5
Hi new here, just wanted to give my 2 cents about the next step that should be taken since I know many people inside the music industry and record labels... If we want Evanescence to be successful and all over the radio again the next logical and business move to make is Amy Lee going solo. Since the 3rd album was a flop with no hit single and basically the whole world not even knowing they made a 3rd album, they need a new direction. If they want a commercial success like The Open Door (its impossible to compete with fallen sales, ever, now) Evanescence needs to take a break and Amy go solo for a album. She needs to collaborate with big name producers (timbaland, Redone, Randy Jackson, David Guetta, ect.) and huge pop stars (Adele, lady gaga, Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj)! It will remind the world that Amy Lee is still relevant and once Amy as a solo artist has a few hit songs then the momentum of a new evanescence album will grow and the demand of a 4th ev record will make the album successful without a doubt. And we will have more ev hits! That's what happened with Gwen stefani and it WILL happen with Ev! Yes, i think you're right about that strategy, but honestly, as a fan, i don't want Ev to be popular at all costs. If the cost is working with some of the artists you named there, i prefer the little popularity the band has now. I don't think something truly interesting would come out of a collab between Amy and Nicki Minaj, besides i can't stand her music or voice, so, no. I would take a collab between Guetta and Amy, though, that could be interesting, i like Sia's collab with Guetta, so i think something cool could come out of that. Who knows? vampirewish I have to agree with Carol on this one. What if Ev just don't want to be that popular anymore? As we can see Amy is the type of person who likes to tour for about a year. Then take some time off. She likes he privet life. Bigger commercial success would probably cause them to have to tour even longer. And as far as collaborating goes, I don't feel that there is anything Nicki Minaj would have to say that would be of any relevance to the majority of the Evanescence world. Would it be great to see them land another Grammy in the future? Of course, (pretty sure that will never happen) but I want them to do it on their own merit. Not because of Nicki Minaj fans or Gaga's Lil Monsters.
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Post by WhisperedDreams on Apr 13, 2013 12:55:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind her doing solo work, as long as she doesn't abandon Evanescence. I think Evanescence is her baby , and I don't see her ever really abandoning it. But, I would also love to hear her solo work. The sort of songs she writes that the label doesn't want on an Ev album.
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Post by moe on Apr 14, 2013 18:17:02 GMT -5
I am dying to hear the stuff that we heard from the Lillywhite sessions in completion. Esp. another piece of the puzzle and stompin steve, that is the best I have ever heard from Amy. As much as I love Evanescence with all my heart, I truly believe that Evanescence is exactly what is holding Amy Lee back from a reaching her full potential as a musician and artist. There is so much more that we need to hear from her, so maybe a solo record is exactly what should happen.
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Post by JohnnyScott on Apr 14, 2013 18:56:50 GMT -5
I am dying to hear "Your Love" complete
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Post by StormsxSaints on Apr 14, 2013 19:22:07 GMT -5
I honestly want to see what Amy is capable of outside the boundaries of Ev. I have a feeling that solo work is where she would really shine. What I actually want to see is more covers. Preferably, just Amy, with piano and harp, and definitely some strings
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Post by moe on Apr 14, 2013 19:34:04 GMT -5
It would also be sweet if Amy joined or started another group.
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