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Post by moe on Nov 21, 2015 19:20:31 GMT -5
Guys, this was so beautiful and awesome. Amy rocked out so hard. I was fucking crying and screaming and laughing!! So emotional.
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VMNT
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Post by VMNT on Nov 21, 2015 19:22:42 GMT -5
You lucky fuckers!! Glad you all enjoyed the show! Here's hoping there is a pro-shot release!
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Post by dannycastillo on Nov 21, 2015 20:20:20 GMT -5
What was happening during Never Go Back? She looked super distracted and almost a little pissed off.
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Post by VMNT on Nov 21, 2015 21:01:42 GMT -5
What was happening during Never Go Back? She looked super distracted and almost a little pissed off. My impression was that was the first song?? Maybe there was something wrong with the monitors or mix or something? Also, everyone came in a little early during the stop in the second half of the second verse - maybe that threw her off?
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Post by ev_chick89 on Nov 21, 2015 21:28:57 GMT -5
What was happening during Never Go Back? She looked super distracted and almost a little pissed off. There was something off with the instruments. But she rocked it either way !
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Nov 22, 2015 4:11:57 GMT -5
What was happening during Never Go Back? She looked super distracted and almost a little pissed off. From what I could tell from the footage, it looks like she was singalling to one of her techs to sort something out on one of the keyboards and they weren't moving/didn't understand what she wanted so nothing was happening (which is why she was getting pretty distracted/pissed off). They sounded fine when she started playing (maybe a bit quiet, but it's hard to tell without actually being there), so maybe it was something else, but either way the perfectionist in her was going pretty nuts I guess this is why they tend to prefer headlining/organising their own shows.
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Post by qadesh on Nov 22, 2015 5:50:25 GMT -5
You lucky bastards! I'm glad you had an awesome time, now I'm going to watch some videos and cry.
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Post by xdershiz on Nov 22, 2015 6:17:48 GMT -5
What was happening during Never Go Back? She looked super distracted and almost a little pissed off. From what I could tell from the footage, it looks like she was singalling to one of her techs to sort something out on one of the keyboards and they weren't moving/didn't understand what she wanted so nothing was happening (which is why she was getting pretty distracted/pissed off). They sounded fine when she started playing (maybe a bit quiet, but it's hard to tell without actually being there), so maybe it was something else, but either way the perfectionist in her was going pretty nuts I guess this is why they tend to prefer headlining/organising their own shows. I thought Never Go Back sounded perfect. But now that you guys mention it, Amy's demeanor does seem off. Not sure why, since the music sounds fine to me. Maybe it was the strict 1 hour time slot? Amy didn't nearly do as much talking or interacting with the crowd as she usually does. Ev only played for 55 minutes... Not gonna lie, I was a little disappointed about that. Some of the other bands that played went a little over their time slot. Not cool! But I guess that's very admirable of Amy and the band... wanting to comply with the rules
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Post by xdershiz on Nov 22, 2015 7:29:59 GMT -5
Question: For the songs with the more complicated piano arrangements, what's your opinion about Amy playing the piano AND singing live? More specifically, I'm talking about MHIB and Erase this lol
For those 2 songs, I think they need to start doing a backup track for the piano. This is by no means an attack on Amy, but doing both (playing and singing) impacts the quality of her vocals. I was totally not surprised that they didn't play MHIB at Ozzfest. To me, it always sounds like she struggles singing it live. Compare any regular performance of MHIB to that acoustic guitar version of MHIB from 2012, and difference in her voice is evident. I would love to hear her do a version of Erase This where she's solely focusing on singing.
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Post by VMNT on Nov 22, 2015 8:21:50 GMT -5
Question: For the songs with the more complicated piano arrangements, what's your opinion about Amy playing the piano AND singing live? More specifically, I'm talking about MHIB and Erase this lol For those 2 songs, I think they need to start doing a backup track for the piano. This is by no means an attack on Amy, but doing both (playing and singing) impacts the quality of her vocals. I was totally not surprised that they didn't play MHIB at Ozzfest. To me, it always sounds like she struggles singing it live. Compare any regular performance of MHIB to that acoustic guitar version of MHIB from 2012, and difference in her voice is evident. I would love to hear her do a version of Erase This where she's solely focusing on singing. In my opinion and experience as a live singer + instrumentalist, I think it's irrelevent. I don't know how Amy choses to do it, but I would suggest that especially with her experience at both that she's probably not even concious of what she's playing when she's playing piano and singing. That's the way I do it. The instrumentation has to be entirely second-nature, otherwise you're seriously risking messing up your performance. Maybe for her, it is different, but either way, if you're at Amy's level of experience, it shouldn't be too much of an issue! Look at James Hetfield from Metallica - he plays and sings polyrhythmically doing insane riffs, high energy vocals and all down-picking (which makes it a helluva lot more of a challenge). In-fact, he plays guitar in the vocal booth while he lays down the vocal tracks to their records. The same could be said for Dave Mustaine, or Geddy Lee from Rush, who plays bass and sings and then jumps on keyboards and keeps singing haha. So yeah, I wouldn't think it's the actual act of playing and singing at the same time that would cause the issue, but everybody's different!
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Post by xdershiz on Nov 22, 2015 8:50:17 GMT -5
You got a point. I have no doubt that it's second nature for her to sing and play concurrently. She is a true vocalist and pianist at heart. I just can't help but notice how off key she can sometimes be when she plays those two songs specifically. In regular performances where she's not playing anything, I'd say she's pretty spot on.
Seeing this performance of Erase This just got me thinking. She could've gotten worn right before the song, but then she nailed Whisper right after? lol Idk
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Post by eva on Nov 22, 2015 9:28:15 GMT -5
Kinda off topic but am I the only one who's disappointed from the lack of interviews after 4 shows? I thought that at least in this one that is a festival there would be sth or in LA. I know they're independent now but still there must be someone arranging these things right? p.s. Talking about let downs.. where is the cute maddie/jack meetup picture I was expecting from Amy and Tim?!
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Nov 22, 2015 16:39:15 GMT -5
You got a point. I have no doubt that it's second nature for her to sing and play concurrently. She is a true vocalist and pianist at heart. I just can't help but notice how off key she can sometimes be when she plays those two songs specifically. In regular performances where she's not playing anything, I'd say she's pretty spot on. Seeing this performance of Erase This just got me thinking. She could've gotten worn right before the song, but then she nailed Whisper right after? lol Idk Like VMNT said, it's usually pretty second nature. It's amazing what the human brain can do once it's been drilled a few times. If you think about it, just playing the drums involves some pretty insane multi tasking (two hands and two feet all doing different things at more or less the same time). That said. I tend to find it's easier to hit notes when standing up rather than sitting down. I'm sure there's some science behind it (diaphragm or some such) that somebody would be able to explain, but this might have an impact. Also, if for whatever reason, Amy makes a mistake on the piano, that could throw off the timing of the vocals for a split second (shouldn't impact whether it's in key at all). I think it's just to do with the difficulty of the songs in question and the fact she's stuck sitting down at a piano rather than stood up, but I see what you mean about all the non-piano versions of MHIB being a lot better vocal-wise :/ Difficult to be sure. Edit: and yeah she always nails Whisper. It's right bang in the middle of her vocal range, and it's a pretty old one. I'd guess by now she doesn't even need to think about singing that one, it just sort of happens (she's probably standing there planning her evening meal or some sh*t when they play that song live). Kind of gutted that she rarely sings that upper register operatic bit before the guitar solo anymore, though. The mid range belt there, just doesn't do it for me.
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Post by harridan on Nov 22, 2015 22:08:58 GMT -5
First batch of feedback from me (the parts that require more effort than tapping the upload button will have to wait a bit). Never Go Back is quite shaky because the jumping around me caught me by surprise and I didn't pull the phone out of my pocket fast enough to catch the first few seconds of Lithium but I think the sound is decent. Edit: Some official festival photos were uploaded to the Ozzfest page. Click
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Post by princeofpersia on Nov 23, 2015 10:36:15 GMT -5
It's sad to see the tour end. already miss them
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