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Post by princeofpersia on Jan 27, 2016 15:41:20 GMT -5
This. they were also spreading a rumor about an EV concert in October in Brazil with almost no clue. And Rarkphoenix is right. that video can be for any kind of project. an EV album, a solo album, a soundtrack, or even another cover. keep your hopes up but don't pay attention to the rumors until you see an official statement from Amy or other band members on their social pages or here on Evthreads with your own eyes. 1. Get your facts straight: I didn't start "spreading" that rumor about the Evanescence show in Brazil! I just found it on another Evanescence fansite (Evanescence Fas BR), which had screenshots from a person who e-mailed someone from the Evanescence website concerning an upcoming show. They had quite some clues (unofficial) so I just tweeted it as a rumor clearly stating "via Evanescence Fas BR" so that you can find the source of the info. 2. Amy's video CAN'T be for Ev music, she literally stated so many times that she doesn't plan working on new Ev music for now! 3. Okay, I agree with you about everything else. I just feel quite sad that I give so much time and effort into this fanpage and get comments focusing on a speculation I just did... P.S. Sorry if any of this sounded offensive, no such intention, love you all xx 1. dude, calm down. who said you were the one who is spreading rumors? I was talking about FallenEvArmy 's post about rumors on EvCrew. I absolutely have no idea what are you talking about cuz I can't see any post from you about that brazil concert rumor here. 2. ok, she's working on a solo album and I deeply believe in what you say, %100. are you satisfied now?! you're acting like we all are trying to say it won't be a solo album, and it definitely will be an Ev record. or we'd hate a solo album from Amy! all I wanted to say is that it's better to wait and see. yes, the possibility of a solo album is stronger. but she neither confirmed a solo album officially nor denied an Ev album in that short interview. I clearly remember she was going to work on a solo album before EV3 as well. but she ended up working with her band again. she mentioned this in many interviews of EV3 tour. and that's why it's better to wait until an official statement and end such pointless discussions. she always does what she thinks is best and we all should respect her decisions. solo, Ev, cover, soundtrack, or even Nothing. 3. "everything else"? ok. thank you
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Post by happyevfan on Jan 27, 2016 16:11:39 GMT -5
1. Get your facts straight: I didn't start "spreading" that rumor about the Evanescence show in Brazil! I just found it on another Evanescence fansite (Evanescence Fas BR), which had screenshots from a person who e-mailed someone from the Evanescence website concerning an upcoming show. They had quite some clues (unofficial) so I just tweeted it as a rumor clearly stating "via Evanescence Fas BR" so that you can find the source of the info. 2. Amy's video CAN'T be for Ev music, she literally stated so many times that she doesn't plan working on new Ev music for now! 3. Okay, I agree with you about everything else. I just feel quite sad that I give so much time and effort into this fanpage and get comments focusing on a speculation I just did... P.S. Sorry if any of this sounded offensive, no such intention, love you all xx 1. dude, calm down. who said you were the one who is spreading rumors? I was talking about FallenEvArmy 's post about rumors on EvCrew. I absolutely have no idea what are you talking about cuz I can't see any post from you about that brazil concert rumor here. 2. ok, she's working on a solo album and I deeply believe in what you say, %100. are you satisfied now?! you're acting like we all are trying to say it won't be a solo album, and it definitely will be an Ev record. or we'd hate a solo album from Amy! all I wanted to say is that it's better to wait and see. yes, the possibility of a solo album is stronger. but she neither confirmed a solo album officially nor denied an Ev album in that short interview. I clearly remember she was going to work on a solo album before EV3 as well. but she ended up working with her band again. she mentioned this in many interviews of EV3 tour. and that's why it's better to wait until an official statement and end such pointless discussions. she always does what she thinks is best and we all should respect her decisions. solo, Ev, cover, soundtrack, or even Nothing. 3. "everything else"? ok. thank you I am the owner of EvanescenceCrew, that's why I said I.
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Post by princeofpersia on Jan 27, 2016 16:29:58 GMT -5
1. dude, calm down. who said you were the one who is spreading rumors? I was talking about FallenEvArmy 's post about rumors on EvCrew. I absolutely have no idea what are you talking about cuz I can't see any post from you about that brazil concert rumor here. 2. ok, she's working on a solo album and I deeply believe in what you say, %100. are you satisfied now?! you're acting like we all are trying to say it won't be a solo album, and it definitely will be an Ev record. or we'd hate a solo album from Amy! all I wanted to say is that it's better to wait and see. yes, the possibility of a solo album is stronger. but she neither confirmed a solo album officially nor denied an Ev album in that short interview. I clearly remember she was going to work on a solo album before EV3 as well. but she ended up working with her band again. she mentioned this in many interviews of EV3 tour. and that's why it's better to wait until an official statement and end such pointless discussions. she always does what she thinks is best and we all should respect her decisions. solo, Ev, cover, soundtrack, or even Nothing. 3. "everything else"? ok. thank you I am the owner of EvanescenceCrew, that's why I said I. oh! then I am sorry if I offended you indirectly. actually, without considering those rumors, I should thank you for all your hard work on covering Ev news. as a fan I usually check your page and I admit its been so useful for me. it's definitely one of top 3 sources of Ev news on the net and that's why me and EmptyChild said that. it was just a bit strange for me to see such a rumors on one of the best Ev pages around. cheers.
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Jan 27, 2016 17:52:14 GMT -5
Do you have a source for this info? I'm pretty sure that she's considered it and that the material "could" be worked into an album of some description, but I haven't seen anywhere that she's explicitly told us that she's actively working on a solo album. It's pretty likely I've missed something, though. Yes, I do have a source: RollingStone.com Amy re-tweeted this article from Rolling Stone, which clearly states: "Lee also told Rolling Stone recently that she has recorded material for a solo album that she plans to release soon.", so I think that makes it pretty official that she'll release a solo album. And keep in mind that she already said that she's re-working stuff from the Lillywhite Sessions. Just seen the source you're referring to: SourceThat is pretty convincing! The fact that Amy retweeted it does add fuel to the fire, too. It does seem very strange though, it's not the sort of thing I've come to expect from Amy. Usually it's "maybe yes, maybe no" right up until the point where she's ready to release it, to keep an element of mystery. I guess she has the means to do it, what with most things being online now, so it is a very real possibility. Would love to see some originals thrown in there. Not too fussed on a 100% covers album, to be honest. Edit: It probably doesn't help that I'm also VERY cynical about anything published in the media.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Jan 27, 2016 20:11:29 GMT -5
This. they were also spreading a rumor about an EV concert in October in Brazil with almost no clue. And Rarkphoenix is right. that video can be for any kind of project. an EV album, a solo album, a soundtrack, or even another cover. keep your hopes up but don't pay attention to the rumors until you see an official statement from Amy or other band members on their social pages or here on Evthreads with your own eyes. 1. Get your facts straight: I didn't start "spreading" that rumor about the Evanescence show in Brazil! I just found it on another Evanescence fansite (Evanescence Fas BR), which had screenshots from a person who e-mailed someone from the Evanescence website concerning an upcoming show. They had quite some clues (unofficial) so I just tweeted it as a rumor clearly stating "via Evanescence Fas BR" so that you can find the source of the info. 2. Amy's video CAN'T be for Ev music, she literally stated so many times that she doesn't plan working on new Ev music for now! 3. Okay, I agree with you about everything else. I just feel quite sad that I give so much time and effort into this fanpage and get comments focusing on a speculation I just did... P.S. Sorry if any of this sounded offensive, no such intention, love you all xx *Merged postsI don't want to get into an arguement but I do want to clarify that you did send out a tweet that said Amy would be releasing the Lillywhite songs in 2016, which we do not know for sure. Like you said, Amy has said she's working on solo music and has plans to release them soon, but that in no way confirms that the Lillywhite songs WILL be released this year. Amy says soon, that could be anywhere from 2 weeks to a few years. No argument, just talking I know, it's just how I see it. It's a fanpage, where I'm trying to collect the news and from my point of view, all the facts point towards that direction. Of course you can disagree, I'm not saying I'm 100% true. I'm just trying my best since I am 1 person administrating every social media Please, don't double-post.Please calm down. I think what EmptyChild is referring to is on your EvanescenceCrew twitter page, you state things like they are fact. Some more recent ones without any form of source (about Amy releasing 2009 Lillywhite Sessions THIS year; Amy releasing a new cover on a said Tuesday following her usual schedule of release when her website even said she will continue them "next year as she has multiple projects she is working on" - which you seem to have deleted after I tweeted something to EvCrew about it; Jen stating they have already planned more 2016 shows). I personally feel offended when things like this happen. You state them like they are fact and when the fans that follow you see this, most of them get their hopes up and then when it doesn't happen, get angry in general and at Amy. Then they start mouthing off to Amy through Twitter because she didn't release something when it was said it was going to be released - when these people aren't even following news Amy has stated, just news from "EvNews" pages like yours. I think a lesson to be learned here is: You really need to be careful with what you post and HOW you post it.
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Post by EvanescentEvil on Jan 28, 2016 6:03:55 GMT -5
It probably doesn't help that I'm also VERY cynical about anything published in the media. This. I'm a bit sceptical about that Rolling Stone article. They might have taken her words out of context.
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Post by happyevfan on Jan 28, 2016 11:22:51 GMT -5
I am the owner of EvanescenceCrew, that's why I said I. oh! then I am sorry if I offended you indirectly. actually, without considering those rumors, I should thank you for all your hard work on covering Ev news. as a fan I usually check your page and I admit its been so useful for me. it's definitely one of top 3 sources of Ev news on the net and that's why me and EmptyChild said that. it was just a bit strange for me to see such a rumors on one of the best Ev pages around. cheers. Thanks for your kind work, sorry also from me! I'll try to not look so ahead from now on and if I tweet a speculation I'll make sure it's clear that it's only a speculation by me. Hope I haven't offended anyone 1. Get your facts straight: I didn't start "spreading" that rumor about the Evanescence show in Brazil! I just found it on another Evanescence fansite (Evanescence Fas BR), which had screenshots from a person who e-mailed someone from the Evanescence website concerning an upcoming show. They had quite some clues (unofficial) so I just tweeted it as a rumor clearly stating "via Evanescence Fas BR" so that you can find the source of the info. 2. Amy's video CAN'T be for Ev music, she literally stated so many times that she doesn't plan working on new Ev music for now! 3. Okay, I agree with you about everything else. I just feel quite sad that I give so much time and effort into this fanpage and get comments focusing on a speculation I just did... P.S. Sorry if any of this sounded offensive, no such intention, love you all xx *Merged postsNo argument, just talking I know, it's just how I see it. It's a fanpage, where I'm trying to collect the news and from my point of view, all the facts point towards that direction. Of course you can disagree, I'm not saying I'm 100% true. I'm just trying my best since I am 1 person administrating every social media Please, don't double-post.Please calm down. I think what EmptyChild is referring to is on your EvanescenceCrew twitter page, you state things like they are fact. Some more recent ones without any form of source (about Amy releasing 2009 Lillywhite Sessions THIS year; Amy releasing a new cover on a said Tuesday following her usual schedule of release when her website even said she will continue them "next year as she has multiple projects she is working on" - which you seem to have deleted after I tweeted something to EvCrew about it; Jen stating they have already planned more 2016 shows). I personally feel offended when things like this happen. You state them like they are fact and when the fans that follow you see this, most of them get their hopes up and then when it doesn't happen, get angry in general and at Amy. Then they start mouthing off to Amy through Twitter because she didn't release something when it was said it was going to be released - when these people aren't even following news Amy has stated, just news from "EvNews" pages like yours. I think a lesson to be learned here is: You really need to be careful with what you post and HOW you post it. *Merged post* Please don't double post..this is at least twice you have been asked. -PJ When I tweeted about a new cover being released, I made sure to say "might" or "probably" cause I know it wasn't sure. Amy did have a schedule until then and it was already 2016 when I tweeted it so a new one could be coming. Sadly it didn't. I apologized and deleted the tweet, I never threw shade on Amy for not releasing it! As far as what Jen said is concerned, well that's a FACT! She said it in an interview, a camera interview available on YouTube! I try my best, but mistakes can happen. And I don't understand all the sudden hate towards me
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Jan 28, 2016 15:14:58 GMT -5
It probably doesn't help that I'm also VERY cynical about anything published in the media. This. I'm a bit sceptical about that Rolling Stone article. They might have taken her words out of context. Precisely. I'm fairly convinced there's some truth to it since she did retweet the article, and it seems strange for Amy to retweet something (even if specifically asked by Rolling Stone to do so), if she wasn't 100% happy with the content of the article. That said, she's not quoted in the article as saying that (it's paraphrased by the journalist) and, even if she was, I tend to disbelieve everything until I hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak (audio/video or meeting the person in question). No hate intended by the way happyevfan It's fan groups like yours that help keep the fan community active, after all! (: I'm just being a miserable, Grade A cynic (as usual ), and reminding everyone that it is healthy to be sceptical, otherwise you can end up getting your excitement up for nothing. One of the joys of assuming that most of what you read is fabricated for one agenda or another, is that when it does prove to be true, it's that much more fulfilling.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Jan 28, 2016 16:00:58 GMT -5
*Merged post* Please don't double post..this is at least twice you have been asked. -PJ When I tweeted about a new cover being released, I made sure to say "might" or "probably" cause I know it wasn't sure. Amy did have a schedule until then and it was already 2016 when I tweeted it so a new one could be coming. Sadly it didn't. I apologized and deleted the tweet, I never threw shade on Amy for not releasing it! As far as what Jen said is concerned, well that's a FACT! She said it in an interview, a camera interview available on YouTube! I try my best, but mistakes can happen. And I don't understand all the sudden hate towards me You came in here and yelled at another member because they misunderstood something about a rumor for an EvShow in Brasil that was tweeted on your news account. He didn't realize that it said "rumored" in your tweet. He apologized, and so did you. EmptyChild and I have only stated concerns and disappointment (that we've already discussed together) that some of your tweets are written like they are fact, without sources. Simply said, other fans will see this as it is going to happen and when it doesn't they become angry and, in turn, yell at Amy and get angry with Amy. This is unfair to her and to her fans (though it's technically the fans fault for not going to the correct source and getting the information from there). I'm unsure as to how it was exactly worded, but I remember when I read it, it seemed like it was being stated as fact if Amy stuck to the same schedule. There are a LOT of people who can and will misread anything. I know I had to read the tweet twice to make sure I was reading it properly and understood it correctly. I've never said you "threw shade" at Amy. I said that people who follow your page can misinterpret your Tweets, get their hopes up and when something doesn't happen, they will get mad at Amy and will lash out at her. It's happened before and most certainly will happen again. Sorry you misunderstood it and thought that I said you were doing such things. As far as the Jen stating stuff about tour, yes it is in a German interview on YouTube. Though, you did not link to the video in your tweet about them having shows lined up in 2016 already. It's a considerable amount down your page from the tweet about Jen saying something about it. Also, it's in German. Those who cannot understand German won't be able to tell what's being said in the interview. It could help, since you understand German, to transcribe the interview. All I'm suggesting is, for example, when you tweet "Jen Majura has revealed that Evanescence have already planned different shows for 2016 and they might visit Germany too! #EvanescenceIsBack" You could include the video also in this tweet. If the character limit has been reached or alomst reached, you can shorten what you're saying to include the source. Perhaps something like "Jen Majura stated in this interview that Ev have shows lined up for 2016! www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib_L19CMZCA" Please take it as constructive criticism because no one is hating on you. We are not bashing you. We are not yelling at you. We are not demanding things from you. We're trying to help you improve.
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Post by happyevfan on Jan 30, 2016 3:47:42 GMT -5
*Merged post* Please don't double post..this is at least twice you have been asked. -PJ When I tweeted about a new cover being released, I made sure to say "might" or "probably" cause I know it wasn't sure. Amy did have a schedule until then and it was already 2016 when I tweeted it so a new one could be coming. Sadly it didn't. I apologized and deleted the tweet, I never threw shade on Amy for not releasing it! As far as what Jen said is concerned, well that's a FACT! She said it in an interview, a camera interview available on YouTube! I try my best, but mistakes can happen. And I don't understand all the sudden hate towards me You came in here and yelled at another member because they misunderstood something about a rumor for an EvShow in Brasil that was tweeted on your news account. He didn't realize that it said "rumored" in your tweet. He apologized, and so did you. EmptyChild and I have only stated concerns and disappointment (that we've already discussed together) that some of your tweets are written like they are fact, without sources. Simply said, other fans will see this as it is going to happen and when it doesn't they become angry and, in turn, yell at Amy and get angry with Amy. This is unfair to her and to her fans (though it's technically the fans fault for not going to the correct source and getting the information from there). I'm unsure as to how it was exactly worded, but I remember when I read it, it seemed like it was being stated as fact if Amy stuck to the same schedule. There are a LOT of people who can and will misread anything. I know I had to read the tweet twice to make sure I was reading it properly and understood it correctly. I've never said you "threw shade" at Amy. I said that people who follow your page can misinterpret your Tweets, get their hopes up and when something doesn't happen, they will get mad at Amy and will lash out at her. It's happened before and most certainly will happen again. Sorry you misunderstood it and thought that I said you were doing such things. As far as the Jen stating stuff about tour, yes it is in a German interview on YouTube. Though, you did not link to the video in your tweet about them having shows lined up in 2016 already. It's a considerable amount down your page from the tweet about Jen saying something about it. Also, it's in German. Those who cannot understand German won't be able to tell what's being said in the interview. It could help, since you understand German, to transcribe the interview. All I'm suggesting is, for example, when you tweet "Jen Majura has revealed that Evanescence have already planned different shows for 2016 and they might visit Germany too! #EvanescenceIsBack" You could include the video also in this tweet. If the character limit has been reached or alomst reached, you can shorten what you're saying to include the source. Perhaps something like "Jen Majura stated in this interview that Ev have shows lined up for 2016! www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib_L19CMZCA" Please take it as constructive criticism because no one is hating on you. We are not bashing you. We are not yelling at you. We are not demanding things from you. We're trying to help you improve. I'm sorry for all of this! I will definitely take all your advise into consideration. I guess I never thought my fanpage would reach such a number of followers and have such an impact, so I'll try to provide more sources every time I tweet something. Thanks again everyone! <3
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Jan 30, 2016 5:23:06 GMT -5
happyevfan No worries! And thanks for being reasonable about it (: Honestly, it's because your page DOES have such an impact that we feel so strongly about it and want the information to be as accurate and informative as possible, and that can only be a good thing. Thanks for spreading the Ev love <3
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 8:26:00 GMT -5
Well, REGARDLESS what the facts are, Amy is up to something and I'm excited to find out what it is.
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Post by FallenEvArmy on Jan 30, 2016 10:22:26 GMT -5
Well, REGARDLESS what the facts are, Amy is up to something and I'm excited to find out what it is. I think what excites me most is that Amy's creativity knows no bounds and this time around, there isn't anything holding her back. Having said that, I do sincerely hope that this is the year we finally hear something significant about an album of sorts. Can someone remind me why Amy cannot release Your Love herself, she has a studio version recorded as evident by this clip, so what could be stopping her from releasing it?
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Jan 30, 2016 13:13:53 GMT -5
Can someone remind me why Amy cannot release Your Love herself, she has a studio version recorded as evident by this clip, so what could be stopping her from releasing it? I think that's the demo version. Amy said she only has a demo version and said nothing about a studio version or finished product. I think what is holding her back is the contract with L&L. Like with any legal thing out there, there is a statute of limitations. I personally think that Amy is waiting for that statute to run out to release it. She obviously wants us to hear it as per her "I promise you'll hear it before the end of the world..." tweet and her comments ("Yeah, I dunno. I'm not sure why they won't just release it already") when fans asked her about it.
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Post by FallenEvArmy on Jan 30, 2016 13:58:06 GMT -5
Can someone remind me why Amy cannot release Your Love herself, she has a studio version recorded as evident by this clip, so what could be stopping her from releasing it? I think that's the demo version. Amy said she only has a demo version and said nothing about a studio version or finished product. I think what is holding her back is the contract with L&L. Like with any legal thing out there, there is a statute of limitations. I personally think that Amy is waiting for that statute to run out to release it. She obviously wants us to hear it as per her "I promise you'll hear it before the end of the world..." tweet and her comments ("Yeah, I dunno. I'm not sure why they won't just release it already") when fans asked her about it. That's s small comfort I guess, I wonder when the statute of limitations expires, if that is indeed the reason (what else can it be though?) Here's hoping it's no more than 10 years, that gives us another 3 years to wait... *sigh* At least she's expressed that she's open to sharing it at some point.
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