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Post by FallenEvArmy on Mar 21, 2013 7:30:42 GMT -5
Where did you hear this? I only remember GE being the song that wasn't intended to be on the album. As for her calling out Shawn, she didn't initially. She initially said this song was about addiction and how it can ruin peoples lives. My understanding was that Amy never even said it was about Shaun. The band released the song (by this point Amy and Shaun had broken up) and Shaun went into rehab days later. It was only speculation when the song was released, but Shaun checking himself into rehab only confirmed what we all thought. How was the band to know that Shaun would do that? It was simply a coincidence, and unfortunately very poor timing. I think Amy even tried to be deliberately more and more vague as time went on to shy away from what we knew it to be about. Unless I've got my facts wrong, if that's the case, feel free to set me straight
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Post by Morgan on Mar 22, 2013 19:48:41 GMT -5
Where did you hear this? I only remember GE being the song that wasn't intended to be on the album. As for her calling out Shawn, she didn't initially. She initially said this song was about addiction and how it can ruin peoples lives. My understanding was that Amy never even said it was about Shaun. The band released the song (by this point Amy and Shaun had broken up) and Shaun went into rehab days later. It was only speculation when the song was released, but Shaun checking himself into rehab only confirmed what we all thought. How was the band to know that Shaun would do that? It was simply a coincidence, and unfortunately very poor timing. I think Amy even tried to be deliberately more and more vague as time went on to shy away from what we knew it to be about. Unless I've got my facts wrong, if that's the case, feel free to set me straight I've spent the last 7 years reading and listening to interviews about The Open Door (not constantly of course, but THROUGHOUT these years, some I've read) and I can tell you all that it went like this: People made assumptions about the song because OBVIOUSLY, and Amy always answered something along the lines of "I don't even think I need to say what it is about,because it really obvious, the song is diffrent to me because I'm not hiding behind a metaphor and I'm just singing what I wanted to say at the moment without thinking too much about it and it feels good. I'm pretty sue that anyone who knows a little bit about me in past couple of years can totally understand who is it about, they know it's about my ex-boyfriend, I really don't need to say it and probably shouldn't, I feel bad talking about it, I dont' want to be mean". Or something like that. Where did you hear this? I only remember GE being the song that wasn't intended to be on the album. As for her calling out Shawn, she didn't initially. She initially said this song was about addiction and how it can ruin peoples lives. You shouldread this, is Amy's dad talking about the writing for The Open Door and how CMWYS wasn't intended to be in the album, and was just for her, to vent, and everyone loved it and saw the hit potential it had, so they included it and it makes sense, doesn't it, because Call Me When You're Sober is one of the most post-TOD songs on TOD. Although this DOES suggest Amy IS mean, only in private,
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Post by Worm Baby on Mar 23, 2013 1:16:25 GMT -5
You shouldread this, is Amy's dad talking about the writing for The Open Door and how CMWYS wasn't intended to be in the album, and was just for her, to vent, and everyone loved it and saw the hit potential it had, so they included it and it makes sense, doesn't it, because Call Me When You're Sober is one of the most post-TOD songs on TOD. Although this DOES suggest Amy IS mean, only in private, Aha! There it is! I knew I'd read about her dad telling her to include it on the album. Totally forgot that her dad was the one to tell us. Thanks for digging that up!
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Post by ladylollydragon (Kazlan) on Mar 29, 2013 22:56:31 GMT -5
I don't understand how some people don't think this song fits on TOD. It's got the same groove that we hear in Lose Control and a couple of other songs, the guitars match the rest of the record... I think it might be the cheeky nature of the song, but that's one of the things that I love about it. Lyrically, it's a little lighter than the rest of the album (minus Good Enough), kind of like a breather before we get buried deep in the luscious sounds of WotW.
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Post by X on Apr 1, 2013 15:37:22 GMT -5
After some deliberation, I think this song is my favorite lead single from them. I really love the different genres thrown into the mix. I also love the sassiness and overall attitude of the song, haha .
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Post by Worm Baby on Apr 2, 2013 14:27:13 GMT -5
I don't understand how some people don't think this song fits on TOD. It's got the same groove that we hear in Lose Control and a couple of other songs, the guitars match the rest of the record... I think it might be the cheeky nature of the song, but that's one of the things that I love about it. Lyrically, it's a little lighter than the rest of the album (minus Good Enough), kind of like a breather before we get buried deep in the luscious sounds of WotW. I thought it sounded really out of place for a long time after the album came out. I would always skip it. Not because I hated the song or anything but because it just didn't fit to me. But I finally got used to it and now it sounds right with the rest of TOD.
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Post by elodieartour on Apr 25, 2013 8:05:41 GMT -5
@worm Baby: Out of place - that is the best description for it on the CD! That was also my problem with the song. I mean, don't get me wrong; I like CMWYS, too. It just still doesn't feel as if it belongs to the album, and in fact, I almost always skip it while listening to the entire record.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on May 2, 2013 22:31:21 GMT -5
Honey pot ants! I saw it and I'm like "Those look familiar". Then I read the description and was like "OHHHHHH!!!!!!"
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Post by gavin4713 on May 2, 2013 23:23:41 GMT -5
Honey pot ants! I saw it and I'm like "Those look familiar". Then I read the description and was like "OHHHHHH!!!!!!" I don't understand what this has to do with Call Me When You're Sober? lol
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Post by ladylollydragon (Kazlan) on May 3, 2013 3:13:56 GMT -5
gavin4713 I think they're the little symbol atop the Call Me When You're Sober lyric page in the TOD music booklet.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 12:15:26 GMT -5
*is digging up older conversations*
To say a song is 'out of place' is the most hollow criticism someone can give to a song.
Further, CMWYS is SOOOOOO 'in place' on TOD. People seem to flanderize The Open Door to ridiculous levels, but CMWYS may very well be the epitome of the TOD experience. SS, CMWYS, WotW, and Lithium (especially Lithium) are all perfectly in-sync with each other, with CN being the hybrid of the second half and the first, then SWQ, Lacrymosa, and LY taking the album in a different, more obscure direction (however, with Lacrymosa this is just an illusion, the song itself is incredibly shallow), then LC being the transitional song between the darkness before and into the spaciness of TOO and YS, which is all then inexplicably brought back to the very beginning of the album with ATILF, which combines the dreaminess of the second half with the directness of the first. Then Good Enough closes the story with its very obvious 'this is the end of a long journey' sound. CMWYS fits perfectly into the musical story of TOD. Like any good album, it gives us a range of emotional soundscapes, not just the same ol' misery that Evfans are so attached to.
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Post by ladylollydragon (Kazlan) on May 4, 2013 2:08:52 GMT -5
I believe it was you, @melt, who said that the more vulnerable and/or sassy the song, the less EvFans will like it. That is definitely the case with CMWYS. I also think that X is correct in saying that it's the best lead single from Ev. I mean, BMTL should probably take that title considering it's the single that jettisoned them into multi-platinum success, but CMWYS is such a fantastic song.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2013 11:38:01 GMT -5
Yep, I did say that, and you know what song was my prime example? CMWYS! A song that is both direct, sassy, AND vulnerable all at once. The one reason I won't give BMTL credit as their best single (other than me not personally liking it that much) is that it wasn't the true sound of Evanescence. It was feeding off of someone else's success. It worked, but it wasn't the real Evanescence. For that reason alone CMWYS is immediately better, regardless of charts and album sales.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on May 5, 2013 11:24:32 GMT -5
Honey pot ants! I saw it and I'm like "Those look familiar". Then I read the description and was like "OHHHHHH!!!!!!" I don't understand what this has to do with Call Me When You're Sober? lol I have the CMWYS Booklet symbol covering the comments. Look closely.
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Post by Ring on Aug 25, 2013 23:59:37 GMT -5
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