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Post by Andromeda - Evanescent-Killjoy on Nov 26, 2013 20:54:19 GMT -5
^^^ yes now just to work out if 'many of these artists' Include Evanescence. Which would mean new a label. lets make sure we get all our facts strait 100% before we run off to celebrate. i know we all really want ev rid of Wind up but we also don't want to get excited and then disappointed when we find out it wasn't what we thought.
Also even if this were true Wind up would still be involved in their Touring as Ev are still listed on the windup site as i said in my last post
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Post by carolexodus on Nov 26, 2013 21:28:00 GMT -5
I hope they get rid of WU for good, atleast concerning marketing and all that, cause WU sucks at it. I'm not sure about the boundaries when it comes to the style of music, though. I hope they face less resistance than they did while under WU's rules.
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Post by Open The Door on Nov 26, 2013 21:44:38 GMT -5
But what does it all mean?
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Post by rionka on Nov 27, 2013 9:32:24 GMT -5
Ev have some recording contract with Wind-Up. There was probably a certain number of albums in that contract but no exact period. So this new company probably gets some rights to release (?) some (?) of this stuff and maybe, or maybe not, we'll get an album (?) from them one day. Actually I think it's more about the future sale of albums than creating a new ones. The library wasn't sold because of Ev carreer but for money. I don't think that anything "really" changed for fans = end customers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 4:08:26 GMT -5
There's only one thing for sure. The marketing and promotion of the Ev material will improve under the new label.
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Post by rionka on Dec 1, 2013 3:56:36 GMT -5
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Post by Andromeda - Evanescent-Killjoy on Dec 1, 2013 10:18:06 GMT -5
This whole thing is driving me nuts because people are popping up every where over the damn internet saying YAY ev are on a new label and i feel really bad cause thats not exactly the case. As far as we know they only have sold their Catalogue and possibly negotiated some recording deal with the other label. My gut instincts are telling me that Evanescence are not rid of Windup yet and we shouldn't get too excited about it. Much like every other bit of news we get cause we all have been burnt before and thats not a good feeling. rionka I feel like the reason is the 4 album contract BUT windup are still taking care of Seethers Tour so its not exactly what we all think. To me its like Windup have sold some duties to other companies to share in the profit because they can't afford to do everything all by themselves any more.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Dec 1, 2013 14:27:50 GMT -5
Evanescence are still on Wind-Up's label. Bicycle has the master recordings of all PREVIOUSLY mastered material. Bicycle has the BACK CATALOG of whatever Wind-Up artists masters were sent to Bicycle. This means that instead of Fallen, ABH (possibly), TOD, and Evanescence being distributed by Wind-Up, it will now be distributed by Bicycle. Plus, any new studio albums.
At least this is what my common sense tells me... I'm probably wrong though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 14:58:21 GMT -5
One thing we know is that Wind-Up definitely knows how to wind us up. Hehehe. I love bad puns.
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Post by Titanic on Dec 2, 2013 0:34:05 GMT -5
One thing I know is Wind Up managed to constantly screw everything Evanescence did right except for TOD. Adding a Rapper to ruin BMTL when it was Amy that made if famous, and forcing her to abandon the original Ev3 and delayed it a year because they wanted Rock and not what AMY wanted.
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Post by DeMarzi on Dec 2, 2013 0:50:00 GMT -5
I know Wind-Up has failed us a few times when it comes to promotion, but why does everyone think that they've screwed up everything? Fallen and it's singles did so amazingly well for a reason, along with CMWYS and Lithium from TOD. You couldn't even go an hour without hearing an Evanescence song on the radio or seeing their music videos on MTV, and the band did countless performances on tv back in the day.
Although I wouldn't mind a new label because I disagree with several of their choices with the Ev3 album's promotion, they're not completely hopeless. They obviously like making money so it's not like they do zero work when it comes to Ev.
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Post by ladylollydragon (Kazlan) on Dec 2, 2013 1:43:07 GMT -5
I'm with DeMarzi on this one. Wind-Up hasn't given Ev the promotion they needed in the past (especially with Ev3), but that doesn't mean they've failed the band completely. Sure, adding a rapper to Bring Me to Life and wanting Ev to hire a guy to rap full-time was a bit of a dick move, but they were completely unsure of whether Evanescence would even be accepted by audiences at that point. As for Ev3, we don't know what that album sounded like other than what we've been told and the small snippets we've heard. For all we know, we would have loved it and the rest of the world would have looked right over it and the album would have flopped. We may all agree that we'd buy a record full of songs about teapots if Amy released one, but record labels are in it to make money first and foremost and catering only to the fanbase isn't going to make money. There are thousands of people who will only buy the singles or buy concert tickets simply because they want to see a band live and as much as it sucks, labels want bands to be able to reach out to everyone. The only reason Evanescence has been able to do all of the wonderful things they have (like tour the world, for instance) is because Wind-Up backed them up. As I'm saying this, I would really like to see Evanescence on a label that would support them creatively as well as monetarily, but I don't think a new label would necessarily be the godsend that everyone thinks it would. In the end, unless Ev end up signed to Trent Reznor's label or something, the next label will likely be the same machine as Wind-Up with a bigger/smaller bank account and a different approach with relatively the same results.
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Post by X on Dec 2, 2013 1:43:36 GMT -5
Even though the promotion for Ev post CMWYS were lackluster, WU wasn't a complete failure and they're not the only ones responsible for promoting Ev. Ev's management probably has more to do with handling the band's promotion than WU.
What they need is proper planning, plan out the era from appearances to release schedules to tours, etc. Gotta give them credit for the superb promo pre-lead single and album though...
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Post by ladylollydragon (Kazlan) on Dec 2, 2013 6:34:17 GMT -5
I feel like it's difficult to bring a band back into the public eye after a five-year hiatus nowadays anyway, so Wind-Up did a pretty good job compared to some. Lol. I feel like we're Wind-Up apologists now.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Dec 2, 2013 21:25:48 GMT -5
One thing I know is Wind Up managed to constantly screw everything Evanescence did right except for TOD. Adding a Rapper to ruin BMTL when it was Amy that made if famous, and forcing her to abandon the original Ev3 and delayed it a year because they wanted Rock and not what AMY wanted. First off, it was MUTUAL decision between Amy and the label because Amy knew the electro stuff was not working when she brought the guys in to do guitars and stuff. Wind-Up didn't like it because it wasn't Evanescence. It's evident it was a mutual decision when you hear that Amy said the guys stuff weren't working so she decided to pull the project then when Terry said it was Wind-Up. Amy would not put blame where it did not belong, and would not blame herself for what Wind-Up wanted. Second, Wind-Up negotiated the rapping because Ben and Amy literally quit when Wind-Up threatened not to put out the album if there wasn't a male vocalist on the whole record. They negotiated rap on one song and it had to be the first single. Ben and Amy reluctantly agreed, but they still agreed. Third, it wasn't Amy that made BMTL famous. It was Daredevil that made BMTL famous and luckily a lot of people liked BMTL along with My Immortal. I have to agree with ladylollydragon (Kazlan), DeMarzi and X. Wind-Up has been good to Evanescence, even though there have been up's and down's (but that comes with anything and anyone). If it weren't for Wind-Up, we would NEVER have had this band that we all love. Didn't Ben actually have to talk Amy into going and meeting with Wind-Up because Amy didn't want fame and all that but Ben said something like just trying it once and if it doesn't work out, then forget about it?
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