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Post by princeofpersia on Dec 9, 2015 13:23:02 GMT -6
for me, all of them! my voice suck! even if i talk loud for a few minutes or scream a few times, i go into a coughing fit and sure enough I lose my voice.
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Post by dannycastillo on Dec 9, 2015 13:47:56 GMT -6
for me, all of them! my voice suck! even if i talk loud for a few minutes or scream a few times, i go into a coughing fit and sure enough I lose my voice. Yep. Speaking loudly and shouting/screaming are going to send your vocal folds to an early grave. The vocal folds are tissue paper thin, so you have to be gentle with them. If you are getting tired while singing, it's probably because you are not using enough breath support. EDIT: Btw, I'm sorry for being all over this thread. I have a degree in vocal performance (currently about to finish up my Master's degree in Voice Performance), and I love talking about singing, technique, and voice pedagogy things. 
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Post by princeofpersia on Dec 10, 2015 1:09:36 GMT -6
for me, all of them! my voice suck! even if i talk loud for a few minutes or scream a few times, i go into a coughing fit and sure enough I lose my voice. Yep. Speaking loudly and shouting/screaming are going to send your vocal folds to an early grave. The vocal folds are tissue paper thin, so you have to be gentle with them. If you are getting tired while singing, it's probably because you are not using enough breath support. EDIT: Btw, I'm sorry for being all over this thread. I have a degree in vocal performance (currently about to finish up my Master's degree in Voice Performance), and I love talking about singing, technique, and voice pedagogy things. oh come on! we all appreciate sharing your experiences with us! though I have to say those tips won't work on me  I've never been much talented in singing. I think my vocal folds are 'too' tender! and yeah I have breath support problems as well. I've never trained vocally and I can't quite get enough air in my lungs and don't even know how to use it. I'd rather keep playing my guitar. guess it's a bit late for me
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Post by The_Sacrificed on Dec 10, 2015 1:48:50 GMT -6
I don't know how I feel about singing, lol. I think the only problems I have with any Ev song is Amy's lower register, I cannot sing low notes for the life of me. Everything else is fine.
I was in choir for a year during high school, it was fun. I was in the alto section but I'm pretty sure I could do soprano too. Someone said to me, "You're so good, you should join one of the musical's" and I was also picked to go this singing competition place. You don't sing alone though. The whole auditorium sang together. It was fun. But I feel like, when I'm not singing along to something I sound terrible. Also, I tend to sing from my throat (if that makes sense) when I'm belting/singing loudly. I don't really know how to sing from my diaphragm. Sorry for going off topic, lol.
But yeah, any song with low notes. Like Going Under especially.
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Post by dannycastillo on Dec 10, 2015 21:18:33 GMT -6
Yep. Speaking loudly and shouting/screaming are going to send your vocal folds to an early grave. The vocal folds are tissue paper thin, so you have to be gentle with them. If you are getting tired while singing, it's probably because you are not using enough breath support. EDIT: Btw, I'm sorry for being all over this thread. I have a degree in vocal performance (currently about to finish up my Master's degree in Voice Performance), and I love talking about singing, technique, and voice pedagogy things. oh come on! we all appreciate sharing your experiences with us!  though I have to say those tips won't work on me  I've never been much talented in singing. I think my vocal folds are 'too' sensitive! and yeah I have breath support problems as well. I've never trained vocally and I can't quite get enough air in my lungs and don't even know how to use it. I'd rather keep playing my guitar. guess it's a bit late for me  Haha! Thank you.  I feel you with the whole "sensitive" vocal folds thing. And hey, everyone's body is different. If you have any questions, I can try and help you out.  For example, getting enough air into your lungs... When you breathe in (breathe in through your mouth for singing), make sure that you are taking what we call a "low breath". That's the kind of breath that makes the diaphragm expand outward. If you put your hand on your belly, it should move outward as you breathe in, if it doesn't, breathe in some more until it moves out. I don't know how I feel about singing, lol. I think the only problems I have with any Ev song is Amy's lower register, I cannot sing low notes for the life of me. Everything else is fine. I was in choir for a year during high school, it was fun. I was in the alto section but I'm pretty sure I could do soprano too. Someone said to me, "You're so good, you should join one of the musical's" and I was also picked to go this singing competition place. You don't sing alone though. The whole auditorium sang together. It was fun. But I feel like, when I'm not singing along to something I sound terrible. Also, I tend to sing from my throat (if that makes sense) when I'm belting/singing loudly. I don't really know how to sing from my diaphragm. Sorry for going off topic, lol. But yeah, any song with low notes. Like Going Under especially. Amy's register probably extends a little lower than yours. About "sounding terrible", I am sure you do NOT sound terrible, and remember that your voice sounds different to others around you (than from inside your head).  Also, nobody really sings from the diaphragm (we don't even breathe from there either). What voice teachers mean when they say "sing from your belly" is that they want you take a nice deep breath (enough for your belly to move outward) and use that breathing for singing.  Your vocal folds are in the larynx found in your throat, so that's where the noise is made, BUT you should not feel pain/tiredness in your throat. That can be avoided by using sufficient air while singing. 
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Post by VMNT on Dec 11, 2015 3:08:36 GMT -6
dannycastillo Just out of curiosity, where did you get your degree? And, I will also agree to the notion that we all appreciate your insight! The one issue that I am most plagued with is too much involvement from my throat. I still find it really frustrating to disconnect larynx tightness, like over compression and neck tension. To sound purely from nasal resonance without any muscular involvement is something I've worked tirelessly at and never seemed to have corrected. I have no problem with pure chest, or with super high notes, but when I blend, especially in lower-head, something isn't co-ordinated properly.
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Post by dannycastillo on Dec 11, 2015 11:53:22 GMT -6
dannycastillo Just out of curiosity, where did you get your degree? And, I will also agree to the notion that we all appreciate your insight! The one issue that I am most plagued with is too much involvement from my throat. I still find it really frustrating to disconnect larynx tightness, like over compression and neck tension. To sound purely from nasal resonance without any muscular involvement is something I've worked tirelessly at and never seemed to have corrected. I have no problem with pure chest, or with super high notes, but when I blend, especially in lower-head, something isn't co-ordinated properly. I got my BM over at Texas A&M University-Kingsville. I studied with soprano, Dr. Melinda Brou. (She is AMAZING, and one of the best voice teachers of our generation. I highly recommend her to any of you pursuing a singing degree.) I am currently getting my MM over at the Butler School of Music at the University of Texas. I wish I could hear a video of you sing. Usually, any kind of tension and tightness in the throat/neck will come from a lack of breath support, but that just offers one solution. Also, it is the soft palate that is responsible for managing how much of your sound is resonating in your nasopharynx and how much sound is resonating in your oral pharynx. If you wanted to sound purely from your nasopharynx, either your tongue or your lips would have to block any air from escaping through your mouth (such as an n sound or an m sound). I think, in my personal opinion, that you'd probably be better off resonating in all three (throat, mouth, and nasal). That way, your timbre would be a mix of both dark and light colors (instead of just nasality). To get maximum resonance, remember to keep the larynx low, keep the tongue flat (make sure it is touching the back of your bottom front teeth), keep your palate raised (so that only some air will resonate in your nasopharynx but not all of it), keep your jaw low (freely not forced), and feel the openness in the back of your mouth and throat.
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Post by auphorium on Mar 28, 2017 21:50:08 GMT -6
The Change... I mean, is so hard to sing without my voice cracking in this one. Also, I think the chorus of Made of Stone and of course, the super long note (at least for me) in Hello 
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Post by fishbowl on Mar 29, 2017 11:38:43 GMT -6
I can't sing at all but I've always imagined Going Under, Cloud Nine and End of the Dream to be a hell experience to sing because I even go out of breath by only listening to them lol. btw people talk about hard to sing high notes in Sweet Sacrifice, can someone tell me which parts they're referring to?
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Post by auphorium on Mar 29, 2017 13:20:11 GMT -6
I can't sing at all but I've always imagined Going Under, Cloud Nine and End of the Dream to be a hell experience to sing because I even go out of breath by only listening to them lol. btw people talk about hard to sing high notes in Sweet Sacrifice, can someone tell me which parts they're referring to? I think they're referring to the notes on 0:43 
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 14:17:57 GMT -6
Probably...The Change, End of The Dream, New Way to Bleed, Erase This...mostly anything off the self titled. If you wanna go by what's hardest on Amy's voice, anyway.
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Post by respawntime on Aug 10, 2017 7:24:18 GMT -6
Everything really. It sounds like I'm dying xD
I tried to do the ending of BMTL and almost died I don't want to talk about Going Under, 75% of the song was coughing and laughing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 10:48:38 GMT -6
Range-wise, if you're a soprano, Snow White Queen's first verse will be a nightmare.
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Post by frozenflames on Aug 10, 2017 20:57:41 GMT -6
Range-wise, if you're a soprano, Snow White Queen's first verse will be a nightmare. Or if you're not a soprano, Sweet Sacrifice. Also, I consider myself an okay singer but I can't belt to save my life. Also, the point at which I switch between my chest and head voice seems to be really low (I don't know if mine's just really low or I just listen to a lot of singers with a higher point). So while I can technically hit the notes (or close to  ) it just sounds weird.
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Post by roy on Aug 11, 2017 18:38:31 GMT -6
Singing question here. Generally speaking, is head voice and falsetto easier than belting/chest voice (not sure if they're they're the same)? In Say You Will live, Amy sings "say" in her head voice, or is it falsetto? Same with "poison" in Sick, the last "hold you back now love" in Lacrymosa, and "a reason to believe again" in A New Way To Bleed. She used to do it in "goodbye" in MHIB and sometimes even "run away" on a bad day in LIP. Is this easier on her voice?
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