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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Apr 20, 2021 19:28:27 GMT -5
Great music video with good quality, though I wonder why it was Amy herself in the cloak at the end. Anyway, the video is close to reaching 1Mil already which makes me pretty happy. More people need to listen to this haha The shrouded figure follows Amy throughout the video. I take it as symbolism of being haunted by the ghosts from her past but now she is in control.
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Post by redfield on Apr 20, 2021 21:29:21 GMT -5
Great music video with good quality, though I wonder why it was Amy herself in the cloak at the end. Anyway, the video is close to reaching 1Mil already which makes me pretty happy. More people need to listen to this haha The shrouded figure follows Amy throughout the video. I take it as symbolism of being haunted by the ghosts from her past but now she is in control. Agreed. Since we know the context of the song, it's fair to draw the conclusion that its content conveys a journey through the different eras and experiences of the band. Amy is the only individual, friend or foe, present in all of these situations. To move forward, she must confront the previous versions of herself and the actions she took both in promotion of and in resistance of whichever frameworks held her and the band in place. It should also be noted that even when you move forward, you cannot truly cut ties with your past (unless, y'know, amnesia). Ultimately, her confrontation/acceptance with those past selves allows her to tear down the monuments erected in previous iterations of their music (many of which are artifacts that represent or are partially attributed to incendiary and problematic forces like former band members, the label, etc). By showing "creepy, spiky Amy" at the end, it can be inferred that even though the structures were decimated, she (representative of the past selves) still stands knowingly. I enjoyed the music video, but my main disconnect concerned the hiding of the doppelganger until the last frame. As a fan of this trope, I knew from the first shot of Amy being followed by a masked dancer/creeper that they were one in the same. It would've made more sense to reveal doppel-Amy right as the columns are crumbling and being mic-smashed to better signify the source of this upheaval (Amy unmasking her history). And then have a couple shots of them interacting. I always prefer to see the consequence of a "twist ending" rather than just "surprise -- THE END." Maybe it was a technology or budget-conscious decision. Then again, we got plenty of Willow-on-Willow action in multiple frames with a bottom-of-the-barrel TV budget over twenty years ago, so... If Buffy can, why can't Evanescence?
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Post by arlieimperfection on Apr 20, 2021 23:16:48 GMT -5
I honestly loved the doppelganger concept and it would've been cool if that got explored more but maybe this was meant to be more abstract. It really takes a few viewings to catch everything because some shots move so fast it's blink and you miss it moments. I personally love stuff like that but I think that is a pretty niche sort of storytelling.
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Post by tezbear_91 on Apr 23, 2021 3:36:28 GMT -5
The video seems to be doing well... 1M views in 6days!
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Apr 25, 2021 23:38:22 GMT -5
I thought one wasn't supposed to interact with their doppelganger once seen.
I'm not quite wanting to put it into a doppelganger category though since a doppelganger is a biologically unrelated look-a-like. I feel like the shrouded figure is supposed to represent the past (her past self). The reveal at the end (being Amy) only enforces that more rather than a doppelganger.
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Post by princeofpersia on May 17, 2021 14:27:07 GMT -5
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Post by Thomas on Jun 21, 2021 7:53:13 GMT -5
Amy hinted that the first verse is about the internal turmoil between her and Ben during the early days. And the third verse is about the US politics, fight for democracy and corrupt leaders.
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Post by ns on Sept 15, 2021 19:34:01 GMT -5
Played the new Dolby Atmos mix on my home Atmos setup through Apple TV, it’s very different with new elements that are definitely not in the standard mix. Some brand new backing vocals, and “better without you” vocal snippets in the background, and a few expanded sound effects. The pre-bridge and bridge are super reworked. Sounds pretty cool, very raw vocals and production though. Almost like outtakes. Hopefully the rest of the album follows eventually.
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Post by imnotbroken118 on Sept 17, 2021 17:26:35 GMT -5
Played the new Dolby Atmos mix on my home Atmos setup through Apple TV, it’s very different with new elements that are definitely not in the standard mix. Some brand new backing vocals, and “better without you” vocal snippets in the background, and a few expanded sound effects. The pre-bridge and bridge are super reworked. Sounds pretty cool, very raw vocals and production though. Almost like outtakes. Hopefully the rest of the album follows eventually. I gave this a listen today in my good headphones and... idk. I guess all I wanted was for Amy's vocal to be a little louder but not sound so overstrained and tinny in the chorus but I didn't need all of this change. I think that the added/more noticeable vocal parts are kinda cheesy and I'm not feeling the guitar/drums that lead into the bridge. Although that might be because they did turn the instruments way down and it almost felt demo-ish to me. That section might sound cool in concert though with a proper live mix. I did like that I could hear the piano in the bridge better. The vocal recording and mixing in the chorus still sounds really bad to me and now that it's reworked you can really hear how much worse the chorus sounds from the rest of the song. I do really like this song, don't get me wrong. It reminds me a ton of Fallen but more grown-up. I'm really looking forward to seeing this one on the concert set. I just think it's a shame that the finished studio recording and mix(es) for this one just didn't quite knock it out of the park for me.
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Post by ns on Sept 19, 2021 23:42:39 GMT -5
The Atmos bridge is messy. The volume changes drastically out of nowhere. Also, when you delete and replace the normal track with the new Atmos version, and then disable spatial audio, the normal version is no longer lossless. I tested this with other albums and when you turn Atmos off the stereo track is still labeled as lossless. So something is wrong the upload format they used, it can be Atmos but not stereo lossless.
Also, is that Jen doing backing vocals for the “not enough” part of the bridge? Sure sounds like her now that it’s less buried.
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Post by beyondthedawn on Sept 24, 2021 11:50:22 GMT -5
When I first saw the Dolby Atmos mix became available, I was so excited to hear it because this should have been the perfect opportunity to fix the issues with the mix. Unfortunately it was even worse than the stereo mix… and all the additional bits that weren’t there before are totally unnecessary. That being said, the whole Dolby Atmos thing has been hit-and-miss anyway IMO. I’ve heard very few Rock tracks that sound better in spatial audio.
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