Titanic
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Post by Titanic on Oct 6, 2013 20:04:59 GMT -5
For me I'm just disappointed in how Wind Up handled Ev's original album. Like, dropping the Lillywhite sessions and legal matters not allowing us to hear those. Now I feel a little bitter about Evanescence because there's material I really want to hear (at least just Stomin'Steve) which we may never hear at all, and I feel like it'll be another 4-5 years before we get any new music that doesn't drown Amy out or have excessive belting. Ev3 for me was very mixed - it had some great songs but overall it turned out tainted by Wind Up and radically different from what I had hoped for from previews offered by videos like Stompin'Steve. So now I'm in a limbo of feeling like we all have to wait another 4 years just to have Wind Up stifle Amy's creativity again and release another album that drowns her out completely? Another "band" record? More noise over her beautiful voice that I waited 5 years after TOD to have downed out by Wind Up's tampering? I wish she'd release an EP of the material, or a solo project, or something. Ultimately it's not Evanescence's or Amy' fault. But at the end of the day, I feel disappointed.
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carolexodus
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Post by carolexodus on Oct 6, 2013 21:45:31 GMT -5
Pretty much what everyone else said. It's just normal. I never was nearly as obsessed with the band as you, though, i think in part because i never really had any other rabid Ev fans to share my obsession with and to feed me with their obsession, but yes, i used to listen to them the whole time and used to be desperate to get home whatever i was doing to check out the latest news. They used to be part of my daily thoughts. This was during TOD era when i really got into them hard. But now i'm kinda older and see the musicians i love from another perspective. Now i just have a pool of bands and solo acts i like or love and just listen to them when i have time and feel like it. I go through months sometimes listening to my favorite artists just a few times when i'm bored and not knowing anything new about them. This board is an example. When Ev3 first came out till half the era i was always checking out, but from the second half of the era i was like "i'll check out tomorrow if i have time" and ended up getting late to every singe new. Ev is the only band i follow relatively closely, though, i have a special part in my heart for them. And sometimes i just go through periods where i listen to a musician A LOT and search for news, info and stuff like a mad cow and then it just fades after just days, max a week. Then i go back to listening periodically. For me I'm just disappointed in how Wind Up handled Ev's original album. Like, dropping the Lillywhite sessions and legal matters not allowing us to hear those. Now I feel a little bitter about Evanescence because there's material I really want to hear (at least just Stomin'Steve) which we may never hear at all, and I feel like it'll be another 4-5 years before we get any new music that doesn't drown Amy out or have excessive belting. Ev3 for me was very mixed - it had some great songs but overall it turned out tainted by Wind Up and radically different from what I had hoped for from previews offered by videos like Stompin'Steve. So now I'm in a limbo of feeling like we all have to wait another 4 years just to have Wind Up stifle Amy's creativity again and release another album that drowns her out completely? Another "band" record? More noise over her beautiful voice that I waited 5 years after TOD to have downed out by Wind Up's tampering? I wish she'd release an EP of the material, or a solo project, or something. Ultimately it's not Evanescence's or Amy' fault. But at the end of the day, I feel disappointed. This is a factor lately. Usually i spend the breaks listening to other music and start randomly thinking "this or that would be so good for Ev, maybe they could go for that other thing and make something fresh and experimental", and so i remember Wind up and how they will always have the last word and sort of lose interst again because i know they don't have enough freedom, so i just think "whatever...it's not gonna happen anyway". That has stopped me from being excited, too.
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*tight rope*
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Post by *tight rope* on Oct 12, 2013 17:41:37 GMT -5
I recognize the feeling. I've been a fan since 2004 when I saw Going Under and Everybody's Fool on tv. I bought Fallen, which made me fall in love with Ev and Amy. Ever since, I've been quite obsessed with them, collecting everything, listening 24/7 to them, drooling over Amy's voice and beauty, you know it all ^^. The hiatus between Fallen and TOD wasn't that bad, cause I made it a quest of mine to find every pre-Fallen track + to play them on the piano. The break between TOD and EV was a lot worse of course, but there are sooooooo many other artists to explore, the world doesn't revolve around them. Basically through the years I'm into a band for a couple of months and then go on the next, while Ev is a constant. Now I'm into Rammstein, System of A Down and Halestorm f.e. And although I wasn't that obsessed with EV3 as with their previous stuff, seeing them live during EV3 tour made me fall in love with them all over again. Still, I have to admit that I'm not that freaked out anymore as I used to be in the Fallen period, but it's about growing up I guess. I was 13 back then, now I'm 22.
The good thing about Ev is, though that when I don't listen to them for a week or longer and they come up on my iPod, I always remember why I love this band so much, and even more weird, it sounds so fresh and new. I probably heard BMTL for more than 1000 times, it comes on my iPod, and still I'm in complete awe when I hear Amy's haunting voice at the beginning, like I hear it for the first time. It's like coming home in a way.
My obsession with the band may have ended, but my respect and love for Amy/the band/the music will always have a special place in my heart. To end it EV-like, they still haaaave... all of me! ^^
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Titanic
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Post by Titanic on Oct 15, 2013 21:33:40 GMT -5
I will say that songs such as End of the Dream, Secret Door and Never Go Back are among my all-time favorite songs, so my feelings about Ev3 are polarized. I feel like if we got an EP of the Lillywhite songs such as Stompin's Steve specifically, I'd feel a lot different. I REALLY want that song.
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rosamy
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Post by rosamy on Oct 19, 2013 16:32:51 GMT -5
Yes, I can relate to this. I had an extremely unhealthy obsession for Evanescence and Amy... But I've always had these obsessions with celebrities. My first was Britney, when I was around 8. After that it was EV/Amy, and now it's Gaga since 2008... But I'll always love them, they're in my heart. I will always listen to their music, buy their records, and visit their concerts. I also think it's because Evanescence takes these long breaks. You don't hear or see them, and than suddenly there's an album out with a lutter 3 videos You can't really live it anymore, in my honest opinion. I went to a lot of Evanescence concerts and I have met Amy, and i'll always fangirl a bit. But not as I used to:)
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Post by whisperrunner on Oct 30, 2013 5:17:53 GMT -5
I can kinda relate to this- its been months since I have even been on Evthreads. Ev will always be my favorite, but its kinda nice to have a break and explore other music and not feel like I am missing out on something.
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moe
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Post by moe on Nov 3, 2013 22:35:08 GMT -5
I have been listening to Ev since 2003 religiously. I feel a little betrayed as a die hard fan at the lack of material. That is a ten year span with only three albums. And as an artist myself, I feel that Amy is way off base when she says she needs extensive time to evolve between albums. When you are a musician you are not going to build up much skill by taking 5 year breaks between writing. Each Evanescence album has evolved to a certain extent, but they are all essentially the same exact thing repeated over and over. Evanescence has the potential to become something much bigger and different but it has been held back by its own constraints. When Rolling Stone magazine said that the new album seems like a "formula rather than a genuine catharsis" they were right. I still listen to the new album at least once a week. I love it. But it is true that it is following an overused formula. Evanescence doesn't have to be a formula. That is not Evolution. Yes, the instrumentals and vocals have improved. Amy is very talented, but her taking extended breaks is bullshit. I am sorry if I sound mad, but I am. As I fan I have been jipped. And jipped by Wind Up as well. That Lillywhite stuff got everyone stirring and then it never happened. Two weeks before they stopped recording the Lillywhite session Amy Lee said "I feel like I am making the album of my life" to Spin magazine. And then it never happened. It is ridiculous. And then we had to wait another year for the same old thing we have always gotten. That Trip Hop stuff should have happened. The Lillywhite stuff that we did get to hear was the best I have ever heard Amy. Her stompin steve video and her piano part with another piece of the puzzle was one of the most beautiful and most complex piano piece she has ever given us as well.
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Post by rionka on Nov 4, 2013 12:49:21 GMT -5
Not that I did not understand where the disappointment rises, I get it... but, um, do you guys know that a majority of these ideas from Lillywhite sessions were later reworked into Ev3 tracks, right? I feel that this fact is still overlooked. I believe that there's almost nothing left forgotten. Sure, I agree that we didn't get Stompin Steve, but we got Made Of Stone, Sick, End Of The Dream, Swimming Home and Secret Door. There's a very nice thread for that.
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moe
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Post by moe on Nov 4, 2013 13:41:24 GMT -5
Not that I did not understand where the disappointment rises, I get it... but, um, do you guys know that a majority of these ideas from Lillywhite sessions were later reworked into Ev3 tracks, right? I feel that this fact is still overlooked. I believe that there's almost nothing left forgotten. Sure, I agree that we didn't get Stompin Steve, but we got Made Of Stone, Sick, End Of The Dream, Swimming Home and Secret Door. There's a very nice thread for that. Yeah but they were re worked into completely different things. It is like Amy took a bunch of electro pop and trip hop influenced songs and added chugging guitars over them so they could sound more like typical Ev. Just because the melodies and lyrics are the same does not mean that we got to hear those songs.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Nov 4, 2013 21:38:26 GMT -5
Amy said that when the guys came in, it didn't work with the Lillywhite stuff. I think she said "It wasn't the right fit". Plus, Wind-Up and Amy came to the decision that the Lillywhite stuff was not Evanescence. I believe she made the statement that it wasn't the right fit, and then during the touring of Evanescence Terry said that Wind-Up also said that the stuff wasn't Evanescence material. I'm pretty sure they came to the agreement mutually. Didn't Amy even say to Lillywhite that the 2009 stuff was more solo then Evanescence?
If it's solo stuff, Amy can't really tack on the logo of "Evanescence" on her SOLO stuff... It makes sense to me... In my opinion, I feel like Evanescence is different from their other material and here is my reasoning (of course this is only my opinion): Pre-Origin stuff was more experimental in the sense that they were trying to find their sound and didn't care what they wrote. Origin is definitely more industrial than Pre-Origin material. Fallen is more teenage angst with drama but mellow. The Open Door is more experimental with the sound but definitely heavier, better and Evanescence's best musical art by far. And Evanescence is more heavy and rockier, though it does seem rushed, it's stuff good material and definitely a side only rarely seen in Ev (Lies and WOTW were their only heavy material before Ev3).
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Post by Rarkphoenix on Nov 7, 2013 14:33:32 GMT -5
It's definitely healthy to allow oneself to leave the whole 'fan hysteria' thing. I can't say I've ever been there myself, and although I would agree that I'm maybe a little obsessed with Evanescence (pretty much whenever I have spare time I'll usually end up doing something Ev related), I've never been able to relate to the whole hero worship thing. It's partly why I respect Amy so much not just as a musician, but as a person too, because with her it's all about individualism and being yourself over following the crowd and obsessing over an idol.
The most interesting Evheads that I've spoken to are those with a real opinion on their music (not just 'OMG they're amazing, Amy's a goddess' etc. etc., but occasionally 'I didn't like that' or 'there are better, more talented bands out there'). We're all different, we all have different opinions, these change over time, and that's all natural. For me it's definitely more of a fun nostalgic thing, because a lot of the music I listen to nowadays sounds nothing like Ev, but my love for them will always be there in some form, regardless.
Growing tired of a band's sound doesn't make your appreciation for their music less, it's just a case of maturing and finding yourself. I guess that's why I became a musician, once you find aspects of your favourite band's sound that you dislike or like less you then strive to make music that fulfills your wants as a listener completely, and that's a journey rather than a destination (:
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Post by Ring on Feb 4, 2014 23:19:01 GMT -5
I've started to re-discover Ev two days ago after a long time of not listening to them and I love every moment.
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Post by rionka on Feb 10, 2014 14:06:18 GMT -5
I've started to re-discover Ev two days ago after a long time of not listening to them and I love every moment. I went through this multiple times during the past decade and I love how I always start to love them again and again.
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Post by jessicawhatsername on Feb 10, 2014 20:49:35 GMT -5
i feel like this, but only with GD... Ev I can't to be honest lose interest.... the only period was between Fallen and Open Door, since that was middle school, and going to an urban school (is exposed to hip hop rap and rnb) and different bands/artists i liked at the time.
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Post by VMNT on Feb 14, 2014 17:11:42 GMT -5
I feel this way about Fallen. I've heard that album so much since 2003 that, while it's still a great record, the songs aren't 'fresh' to me anymore. I made sure to not burn myself out on ToD and EV3.
I still go back and listen to Fallen every now and again, but when I do, it's something special because the feelings of nostalgia are so strong - and that can be both a good and bad thing.
I listened to almost no other band but Nirvana for four years straight... I got burned out on their records, so I moved to listening to live versions and bootlegs. Nowadays, I'm still a Nirvana "fan", but I haven't really listened to them in about 2 years. I think your musical taste develops as a fan, as much as it does for the actual band themselves. For example, now, I think Nirvana are a great band with great songs, but their songs just don't musically interest me anymore. I know all the melodies and the chords and the drum beats - the lack of variety becomes very apparent.
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