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Post by X on Aug 8, 2012 3:02:56 GMT -5
I hope they'll play this song again, it's a great opener.
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Post by magicalcutzi on Aug 8, 2012 11:02:52 GMT -5
I used to never listen to this song because it creeped me out. But now I love it and I think it's really cool and creepy in a good way. I really love that high note she does at the very end that you have to turn the volume up really high to hear, it's so chilling.
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Post by FallenEvArmy on Aug 9, 2012 15:24:39 GMT -5
I remember when I heard this song for the first time, I loved the way it blew up after this bridge:
If I cut you down to a thing I can use I fear there'd be nothing good of you
But I was so disappointed when the song came back down and started fading out. I was like "Is that it? Where'd the rest of the song go?!" I thought it was going to turn into this epic ending. It's one of those songs that builds up but never quite reaches the top, and just leaves you hanging and wanting more.
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Post by carolexodus on Aug 11, 2012 21:23:21 GMT -5
I LOVE this song. It's very innovative for an Ev song. The lyrics have an erotic vibe, they're quite ambiguous. Amy's voice is used brilliantly. We can hear her lower register, i like how she uses whispers and breathy lines, it sounds perfect. And i just love how the song is all lascivious one minute and then the chorus comes in with all it's force. Love the piano, too. TOD has amazing atmospheres, each song has it's own distinctive and intense atmosphere, that's probably what i appreciate the most about the album.
I also love the middle eight, i just relate to it's lines, i went through a particular situation with my ex and those lines spoke a lot to me at that time.
One thing i like very much about TOD is the fact that in certain songs, the background vocals are almost as interesting (or more) than the main vocals. I love listening to karaoke versions of this song in particular.
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Post by GoingUnderOceans on Aug 14, 2012 21:55:52 GMT -5
I sometimes don't like this song but other times love it, it's the bridge that gets me loving it again!
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Post by carolexodus on Aug 14, 2012 22:26:05 GMT -5
^^The bridge is amazing. I want them to add this song to the playlist.
Did Amy say something about the meanning behind the lyrics? I don't recall.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Aug 14, 2012 23:22:55 GMT -5
^^The bridge is amazing. I want them to add this song to the playlist. Did Amy say something about the meanning behind the lyrics? I don't recall. Yes. She said the song is about moving away from your normal routine; losing control and doing something completely different.
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Post by carolexodus on Aug 15, 2012 15:34:53 GMT -5
^^The bridge is amazing. I want them to add this song to the playlist. Did Amy say something about the meanning behind the lyrics? I don't recall. Yes. She said the song is about moving away from your normal routine; losing control and doing something completely different. oh, thanks! i don't know how i missed that... ;D Too bad she wasn't more specific, though.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Aug 15, 2012 17:19:51 GMT -5
oh, thanks! i don't know how i missed that... ;D Too bad she wasn't more specific, though. Lol. Yeah. I thought she said it in the vh1 interview, but it wasn't there. I don't remember where it was, but I do remember reading that because I remember commenting to myself "Oh, so that's what it's about, not sex! Makes sense!"
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Post by carolexodus on Aug 20, 2012 22:27:35 GMT -5
So what's your interpretation of this song, guys? I know now that Amy said the song is about moving away from your routine and doing something different, but in what aspects do you guys think she wanted to do something different? The band's music?, sex?, relationships?, business?
And why would she use verses like "You don't remember my name, i don't really care", the lines about Mary and her lamb and those last two lines before the song ends?
This song sounds just very, very dark to me to be just about changing some superficial aspects of your routine. And it also seems like Amy had someone in her head when she wrote certain lines. The "if i cut you down..." line is very dark and it seems like she's singing to someone in particular, someone who she thinks is not worthy or a good person in general. And what about the "can we play the game your way?" Who's game?, what game?
What do you guys think?
I used to think this song was about a woman (Amy or someone else) having an affair with a taken man, but maybe that man is someone who she used to know in the past, maybe someone with whom she had a relationship and got hurt because he didn't appreciate her ("you don't remember my name"). And maybe now she's willing to lose control with him and do something really twisted and wrong behind his girlfriend's back, and that's why the song has the dark vibe it has. She's enjoying doing something wrong because she wants to prove (to him or herself) that he doesn't mean anything to her anymore, just like she never meant anything to him.
But i guess that's too shallow of a subject matter for an Ev song. It makes sense if the song means something less obvious. But as i told you, i don't know what the Mary lines and all the other lines i mentioned mean in that context.
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Aug 20, 2012 22:46:17 GMT -5
So what's your interpretation of this song, guys? I know now that Amy said the song is about moving away from your routine and doing something different, but in what aspects do you guys think she wanted to do something different? The band's music?, sex?, relationships?, business? And why would she use verses like "You don't remember my name, i don't really care", the lines about Mary and her lamb and those last two lines before the song ends? This song sounds just very, very dark to me to be just about changing some superficial aspects of your routine. And it also seems like Amy had someone in her head when she wrote certain lines. The "if i cut you down..." line is very dark and it seems like she's singing to someone in particular, someone who she thinks is not worthy or a good person in general. And what about the "can we play the game your way?" Who's game?, what game? What do you guys think? I used to think this song was about a woman (Amy or someone else) having an affair with a taken man, but maybe that man is someone who she used to know in the past, maybe someone with whom she had a relationship and got hurt because he didn't appreciate her ("you don't remember my name"). And maybe now she's willing to lose control with him and do something really twisted and wrong behind his girlfriend's back, and that's why the song has the dark vibe it has. She's enjoying doing something wrong because she wants to prove (to him or herself) that he doesn't mean anything to her anymore, just like she never meant anything to him. But i guess that's too shallow of a subject matter for an Ev song. It makes sense if the song means something less obvious. But as i told you, i don't know what the Mary lines and all the other lines i mentioned mean in that context. I find it kind of amusing that this song does give of the sexy vibe and seems as though it is about sex. I've been reading the Fifty Shades trilogy (on book 2) and it seems like Lose Control can really fit into the story line for the books story; like if it was made into a movie I think Lose Control would be a great theme song, so to speak, for the movies. Then again, it could be about OCD. Having those stupid obsessions and compulsions that are just ridiculous and one just doesn't remember what those compulsions and obsession are for anymore. I've suffered from OCD before (and still do, but it's not as bad) and it seems as though that "You don't remember my name" part has kind of the concept of not remember what you're doing these compulsions and obsessions for anymore. "If I cut you down to a thing I can use, I fear there'll be nothing good left of you": If you let said person out of their bounds/ties, then there will be nothing left to feel the need for control or nothing left to control.
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Post by Carved in Stone on Aug 31, 2012 7:25:45 GMT -5
Glad to see I'm not 'the only one' who listened to this and thought it was about sex at first. Looking more into the lyrics to me it seems it could be about Ben, how maybe without him in Evanescence she feels she can't continue, that she'd be willing to lose control to have him back. Just a thought. You could well be right there.......during the pre Fallen days - Any and Ben were so close with each other for very long periods of time, writing / recording stuff - must have been a very intense and strong relationship - could easily be assumed that they were "together" Also the suddenness in which their relationship broke off raises questions - you can't just shut off emotions / thoughts like flicking a light switch to "off".... After all is said and done, its still a great song - a classic from that album
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2012 10:02:46 GMT -5
But i guess that's too shallow of a subject matter for an Ev song. It makes sense if the song means something less obvious. But as i told you, i don't know what the Mary lines and all the other lines i mentioned mean in that context. Quite the opposite, I think. The situation you described can be very emotionally complex, much more so than most Ev song subject matter. I would argue that most Ev songs are on the shallow side as they rarely delve into anything more generalizations and metaphors, instead of grounding themselves in reality... As well as how rarely we see Amy taking responsibility for herself instead of blaming someone else. It's possible to do all of that, but Evanescence rarely does. Lose Control is a bit of an exception to that, I think, as it seems to be one of those songs that Amy doesn't tell us the whole story about, instead hinting at an untold story.
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Post by carolexodus on Aug 31, 2012 10:57:08 GMT -5
But i guess that's too shallow of a subject matter for an Ev song. It makes sense if the song means something less obvious. But as i told you, i don't know what the Mary lines and all the other lines i mentioned mean in that context. Quite the opposite, I think. The situation you described can be very emotionally complex, much more so than most Ev song subject matter. I would argue that most Ev songs are on the shallow side as they rarely delve into anything more generalizations and metaphors, instead of grounding themselves in reality... As well as how rarely we see Amy taking responsibility for herself instead of blaming someone else. It's possible to do all of that, but Evanescence rarely does. Lose Control is a bit of an exception to that, I think, as it seems to be one of those songs that Amy doesn't tell us the whole story about, instead hinting at an untold story. do you think so? Idk, i guess i feel like Amy is the sort of person who wouldn't consider worthy that type of inspiration as to write a whole song about it, but what do i know? Maybe she does, but i wouldn't be surprised if the real meaning behind the song is not as obvious as it seems at first glance, given the fact that most Ev songs are rather vague (even their song about sex trafficking is vague). I do find it weird that she never said anything direct about the story behind the song, though.
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